# Parents: Leave Your Goddamn Spawn at Home

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2002, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053 "2002-03-13T13:53:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dilbert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58f4c7/32.png) [@Dilbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dilbert)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/41 "2002-03-14T14:37:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Badtz Maru \*  
> \*\*I just wanted to agree with the statement that complaining about noisy children works. When I saw The Phantom Menace a few days after it opened there was a woman with a few kids behind us. The youngest, probably 4 or 5, asked her questions every 10 seconds - ‘Who is that?’ ‘What’s he doing?’ ‘What’s that?’ and the mother would ANSWER HIM, both in normal speaking voices. \*\*

I had the same thing happen during Monsters, Inc. However, since it was a kid’s move I didn’t complain, since I was there a 1 pm. However, why in the world did she waste the money if her kid wasn’t gonna understand the movie anyway? She could have waited a year and rented it.

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**Author:** ![tiggeril](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tiggeril/32/7234_2.png) [@tiggeril](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiggeril)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/42 "2002-03-14T14:51:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dilbert \*  
> \*\* She could have waited a year and rented it. \*\*

Therein lies the problem, unfortunately. If we get all pissy because a website takes more than thirty seconds to load, who’s going to wait a whole _YEAR_ for a movie?

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**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/43 "2002-03-14T14:59:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jurhael \*  
> \*\*Hijack! Hijack!
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> What the hell kind of food could POSSIBLY be 200-1000$?? Is it made of gold? Or some sort of rare blowfish!? Or yak testicles??? Jesus… \*\*

In a really nice steak house, that has an exceptional wine list.

Easy to do.

Dinner for 2  
1978 Chateau Pichon Leland - $550  
2 Lobster Bisque - $12  
2 Salads - $12  
2 Steaks - $70  
1 Cold Water Lobster Tail to split (22Oz) - $125  
198x Chateau Lafite $425  
2 Creme Brulee - $14  
2 Glasses 1934 Porto Rocha $160  
1 Opus X Perfection ‘A’ $60

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**Author:** ![Legomancer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/779978/32.png) [@Legomancer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Legomancer)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/44 "2002-03-14T15:03:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by scotth \*  
> **1978 Chateau Pichon Leland - $550**

Wow. I have a rule that I don’t spend over $5 for something that will eventually be urine. I just can’t imagine paying this.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/45 "2002-03-14T15:05:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*
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> > \*Originally posted by Jurhael \*  
> > Hijack! Hijack!
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> > What the hell kind of food could POSSIBLY be 200-1000$?? Is it made of gold? Or some sort of rare blowfish!? Or yak testicles??? Jesus…
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> \*\*When I entertain clients I’ve been at tables with that much. Two years ago we ran up $1600 when I was hosting several people from around the country. \*\*

Wasn’t there a world record recently for the most expensive dinner? IIRC, it was over $10,000 and didn’t include food, just drinks.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/46 "2002-03-14T15:21:40Z")

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[Found it!](http://zebulun.org/cgi-bin/index3.cgi) Six bankers in London paid a total of 44,007£ (that’s $62,679). The over $10K was per person.

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**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/47 "2002-03-14T15:22:30Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Jeff Olsen \*  
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> \*\*When I entertain clients I’ve been at tables with that much. Two years ago we ran up $1600 when I was hosting several people from around the country. \*\*

Wasn’t there a world record recently for the most expensive dinner? IIRC, it was over $10,000 and didn’t include food, just drinks. \*\*  
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I am sure it MUCH higher than that. I go to a restaurant where a single bottle of wine can go as high as $40k. No, I haven’t ever bought one of them up in that range.

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**Author:** ![Dilbert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58f4c7/32.png) [@Dilbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dilbert)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/48 "2002-03-14T15:47:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by scotth \*  
> **1978 Chateau Pichon Leland - $550**

:eek:  
_blink_ _blink_

I’ve always wondered. Is that wine really $520 better than the wine I get? I understand there’s a difference between wines, but isn’t there a point of diminishing returns on it?

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> **1 Cold Water Lobster Tail to split (22Oz) - $125**

Glad I’ve never tried lobster. This way I can’t like it.

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**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/49 "2002-03-14T16:08:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by scotth \*  
> \*\*  
> Wasn’t there a world record recently for the most expensive dinner? IIRC, it was over $10,000 and didn’t include food, just drinks. \*\*

I am sure it MUCH higher than that. I go to a restaurant where a single bottle of wine can go as high as $40k. No, I haven’t ever bought one of them up in that range. \*\*  
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Where do you eat, at The Mansion?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/50 "2002-03-14T16:32:26Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Dilbert \*\*\*
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> > \*Originally posted by scotth \*  
> > 1 Cold Water Lobster Tail to split (22Oz) - $125
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> Glad I’ve never tried lobster. This way I can’t like it. \*\*

Of course, there are places that have smaller lobster tails for a lower price. I’ve been to a restaurant that offers two tails, or a tail and a steak, for $25.

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**Author:** ![zenith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zenith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zenith)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/51 "2002-03-14T17:10:08Z")

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On a note related to the original subject matter; what’s with this “inside voice”,“outside voice” shit?

I first encountered it a few years ago at a motel in the Badlands.  
Kids were allowed to run all over the parking lot at first light, awakening all the other guests. But when any of them returned to the parents’ room,still screaming like a lunatic,one parent or the other would loudly state “inside voice” , and you would scarcely hear the brat until its nose was a nanometer outside the plane of the room doorway. Then it was “outside voice” all over again.

My wife and I have encountered this annoying phenomenon time and again since then. Instead of expecting good behavior in public places at all times, kids are allowed to go wild so long as they are not strictly within the confines of the family room, cabin, RV, automobile, etc.

It is mostly the people who think of themselves as upscale who engage in this crap. During Sturgis Week, I have lived next to “lowlife outlaw biker” families whose kids behaved appropriately both in and out of the room.

A “biker kid” who gets rowdy is grabbed by Mom or Dad and given a short warning, in an appropriate tone of voice( not the 1000 decibel yuppie “inside voice” shriek) and is given THE LOOK which says something like, “Do that again and we boil and eat you for lunch”.

When our kids were young, they understood that if they bothered the neighbors on vacation, the rest of the trip was spent doing “boring parent things” like visiting museums, instead of rock-climbing, cave crawling, go-Karts, mini-golf swimming, etc.

On our first trip to the Black Hills/ Badlands area without kids, we found dozens of interesting “kids would have been bored out of their skulls” places we never knew existed.

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**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/52 "2002-03-14T17:23:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by throatshot \*  
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> Where do you eat, at The Mansion? \*\*

Pappas Bros. Much better than The Mansion.

We probably ought to start another thread on this if there are many more questions, instead of continuing the hijack.

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**Author:** ![Necros](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/necros/32/11086_2.png) [@Necros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Necros)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/53 "2002-03-14T19:05:04Z")

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Geez, where do _you_ guys eat? McDonalds 24-7? For speacial occasions we regularly spend over $200 for 2. Never spend over $5 for a beverage? Even a normal bottle of wine in a decent restaurant will run you $30. Never eaten lobster? Uh…ok. I guess, if you’re allergic to shellfish, because I’m sure someone will jump in here and say, “Well, _I’ve_ never eaten it because blah blah blah.” I swear, I’m amazed sometimes at the things people eat.

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**Author:** ![BurnMeUp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@BurnMeUp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BurnMeUp)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/54 "2002-03-14T19:23:08Z")

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> \*Originally posted by zenith \*  
> \*\* instead of rock-climbing, cave crawling, go-Karts, mini-golf swimming, \*\*

THe most difficult part of mini-golf swimming is making sure the ball doesn’t get sucked into the filter.

And don’t EVEN get me started on how hard it is to get any power behind your putter under 6 feet of water.

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/55 "2002-03-14T20:29:13Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Necros \*  
> \*\*Geez, where do _you_ guys eat? McDonalds 24-7? \*\*

No. Just places that DON’T cost an arm and a leg. When I look for resteraunts to eat at, I look at what costs the LEAST. For me alone, I don’t spend more than 15$. I might have spent 20$ ONCE in my life.

Guess I’m cheap or something, but I’ll be damned before I spend 100$ on a dinner.

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**Author:** ![Dilbert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/58f4c7/32.png) [@Dilbert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dilbert)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/56 "2002-03-14T21:27:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Necros \*  
> \*\*Geez, where do _you_ guys eat? McDonalds 24-7? For speacial occasions we regularly spend over $200 for 2. Never spend over $5 for a beverage? Even a normal bottle of wine in a decent restaurant will run you $30. Never eaten lobster? Uh…ok. I guess, if you’re allergic to shellfish, because I’m sure someone will jump in here and say, “Well, _I’ve_ never eaten it because blah blah blah.” I swear, I’m amazed sometimes at the things people eat. \*\*

Let’s see. I’ve just never had the desire to eat lobster. My wife can’t drink, and for that reason I don’t drink when I go out with her. I rarely eat steak (can’t get it cooked the way I like it when I go out), so we’re pretty cheap eats whenever we go out together, regardless of the restaurant. We’re usually too full from the meal to get dessert, especially on the off chance we got an apetizer (which we rarely do).

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/57 "2002-03-14T21:45:25Z")

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> \*Originally posted by throatshot \*  
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> I am sure it MUCH higher than that. I go to a restaurant where a single bottle of wine can go as high as $40k. No, I haven’t ever bought one of them up in that range. \*\*

Where do you eat, at The Mansion? \*\*  
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I and my family had Thanksgiving dinner at the Mansion on Turtle Creek in Dallas. It was a $80 prix fixe deal, not counting beverages. The meal for four people (counting alcohol) came to five hundred dollars, not including tip.

Robin

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**Author:** ![Venoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@Venoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Venoma)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/58 "2002-03-14T22:09:46Z")

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Dilbert, I would be happy to buy you a 15.00 lobster from one of the fisherman here and dissemble it on the kitchen table. 2 lobsters make a large meal for me, 3 were always enough for my heavy-eating Dad.

I don’t think I’ll ever be comfortable eating a lobster in a restaurant… it’s too much of a ‘messy kitchen’ food to me.

_Venoma greedily picks the carapace clean_ mmmmmmmmm LEGS!

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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/59 "2002-03-14T22:16:49Z")

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Agreed. Best place for lobster is at your own table. We cover ours with newspaper first to catch the drips and all the shells - very classy.

If I tried to eat it in a nice restaurant, I’d probably be asked to leave.

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**Author:** ![scotth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9e5f3/32.png) [@scotth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotth)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2002, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-leave-your-goddamn-spawn-at-home/98053/60 "2002-03-14T22:29:34Z")

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There are two kinds of lobster eating, and I am a fan of both.

The way to go in a restaurant is just a large cold water tail.

These range in size from 20 to 60 Oz of tail meat. Not messy at all. And, get ready for what is sure to be derided as heresy… It is better than Maine lobster. Good stuff.

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