Well, that´s the point; it´s not as if Aunt Polly called the parents nagging about sending the girl to a doctor, they called the frigging police to go and check her out. You don´t call the police in a situation like that unless is the most extreme of circumstances.
No no no. Poor people don’t deserve doctors. Please report to a political re-education facility for a brief refresher.
Whew. I’m glad you caught that, or I’d have had to say something.
Oh my God, you’re right. Your incessant pissing all over religion has finally convinced me I must be wrong! Praise be, I’ve seen the light! At last, I’ve been shown the error of my despicable and horrific ways!
has been kept up late, is somewhat cranky today
That’s what faith is; the denial of reality.
If all the people who’ve suffered and died because of it, and all of it’s errors, irrationality and evil hasn’t convinced you that religion is a bad thing - then it’s highly unlikely that anything I or anyone says will convince you.
That’s silly. This little girl died because her parents were religious. They weren’t just religious people that did something dumb. Faith in god is DIRECTLY responsible for her death. Can you think of an example of atheism directly causing this same kind of tragedy?
Your statement that she had apparently seen doctors is not supported by the article, and contradicted by it.
They even admit there was a serious situation, and yet didn’t do anything but pray for at least a day. Since she was home schooled, there is no reason at all to believe that she had seen a doctor for at least a year, or two, even if you were correct about the vaccinations. You mean that no diagnosis a year ago indicates that nothing could have sprung up between then and when that poor girl died?
Why are you justifying the actions of murderers again? I hope their other kids are taken from them and given to someone who will protect them. The scumbag parents don’t even show remorse.
Ditto that, a million times. It’s not like Wisconsin doesn’t have some of the leading endocrinologists in the country, either. Or that a trip to the emergency room the day before might have turned things around damn quick. I was too young when I was diagnosed to really remember anything about how I felt other than that it was scary to be sick and separated from my parents, but I know that it took them a lot less than two weeks to take me to a doctor, which is the only appropriate action in this situation.
This situation just makes me really mad. I like to think that if a child started having dizzy spells, vomiting, and smelled like a brewery thanks to all the sugar coming out their pores, their parents would maybe see a doctor. Or call a nurse hotline. Or maybe talk to one those doctor friends the father mentions in the article. “Shucks, some of my best friends are doctors, hurr hurr.”
These things aren’t supposed to happen today. Nobody’s ever been prayed free of diabetes.
When I skimmed the quoted article, I misread and thought it said “The family moved to Weston from California about two years ago to open a coffin shop” :smack:
Well, I guess they can’t get a discount after all.
People are idiots. When someone is sick, you seek medical attention. Not only that, but if you don’t like what you hear, you take that person to one doctor after another.
I know this from personal experience. My SO was basically written off as a lost cause and told to get his affairs in order. (Liver failure caused by undetected Hepatitis) They gave him six months to live - tops. I refused to believe that and took him to another doctor, and yes, another doctor. Finally we found a doctor who read medical journals and he suggested a radical new surgical treatment (Called TIPS - previously only used as a stop gap, now found to be long-term treatment!).
Now, five years after he was supposed to be dead, he is healthy, working full time and in perfect health.
I suppose I could have sat by his bed and prayed…but call me a lunatic - I believe in science and evolution and the power of knocking down doors until I get the answers to questions.
Those parents should be sent to prison for manslaughter.
Indeed. Makes you wonder what on earth that fatuous Galilean asshole thought he was blethering on about, doesn’t it? Fancy teaching people to think they can go about asking God for things! :rolleyes:
/irony
In those cases, wouldn’t the kids be eligible for CHiPS or the above mentioned BadgerCare? And even if they weren’t anti-vaccination, haven’t they heard about yearly check-ups?
Once again, Polycarp demonstrates why I adore him.
Are you missing my intentions entirely or just trolling?
He’s joking. C’mon, you know jokes, right?
I personally loved the ‘poor kids don’t have insurance’ one.
What’s that?
Kidding aside, I don’t think I went in for yearly checkups myself–I don’t recall ever being to a doctor unless I was sick enough to be worth worrying over, which for me meant hardly ever seeing a doctor as aside from colds and the yearly flu, I was rarely sick (and what vaccinations I did have after starting school were administered through the school.) In other words, it had to be quite clearly not one of those two things for me to be taken in–this in Canada where the cost of a doctor’s visit is nil. While the parents may have dropped the ball a bit on the last day or two, if she was only a bit tired before then, and then showing what they thought was the flu, I can see them not taking her in right away.
Yeah, my brother (also 12/13 at diagnosis) had a blood sugar of over 800 and appeared absolutely fine.
The daughter died from Type 1 insulin dependent diabetes - as a former medical lab tech, I can tell you with that this is a common disease that is screened for every damned time someone has tests ordered by a doctor - the screen is a simple urine dipstick testing for glucose in the urine (you should never have glucose in your urine). Every time I get any tests ordered by a doctor, a urinalysis is always included, and I don’t imagine US healthcare is all that different in this case. The girl was not just a little tired for a month - I am pretty darned sure she was exhibiting all kinds of symptoms. You don’t starve to death without showing some symptoms, which is what this girl did.
Her parents were horribly negligent. There is no doubt in my mind that the girl didn’t present as sick enough or some such bullshit - the symptoms of juvenile-onset diabetes are clear and specific, the testing is easy and non-invasive - there is no excuse for this to have happened. Kids get diabetes all the time, and somehow all those other parents seem to know enough to take their kid to the doctor. Especially if the mom is a nurse - she should know better than anyone what the common symptoms of diabetes and ketoacidosis are, since as an ER nurse she would see (and smell) uncontrolled diabetics all the time. Bleargh - people suck.
Until after Easter, just in case.
I think you’re conflating two stories. It was my friend, not the woman in the linked article, who is an ER nurse who missed the early symptoms of her daughter’s diabetes and nearly, but didn’t, lose her. And who was reassured by every doctor and nurse she lamented her guilt to afterwards that sometimes, you just don’t see these things in kids you’re close to. I’m terribly sorry for your loss, and I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. But not every kid shows big symptoms for diabetes.
There is no routine screen for diabetes in the US at pediatric visits, at least in our state. (At least from her doctor and my doctor, the only two who I asked directly after this happened.) While annual exams might have found some things, it would not find diabetes.
Amen brother or sister- what I came to say, only not as succintly or eloquently as you did. 
God was going to kill your kid, but since you asked him nicely not to he changed his mind? :rolleyes: