# Parents selling photos of young girls on Instagram. WTF? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988 "2024-02-23T16:59:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/21 "2024-02-23T21:41:52Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > I know it’s a different world that we live in, but the sort of behavior described in that article just seems callously amoral. “Hey look! Money!” Ayab? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/22 "2024-02-23T22:09:41Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > I wonder if a jury might conclude that “a reasonable person” should know that such images could only sell for high prices if they are being used by pedophiles, and therefore it is possible to indict someone for selling them. But I’m not any kind of legal expert. I think the problem there is that it’s not, AFAIK, illegal to masturbate to a picture of a clothed child. Also, is $10 a picture a high price, compared to commercial modeling contracts? I’d assume the skeevy stuff is cheaper. Anyway, the problem isn’t actually the pedophile. I don’t think a child is harmed by someone they never meet doing something they never hear about. The harm comes from a having a bad parent, and not in a “sexual predator” way, but in a “absolutely going to fail to meet this child’s emotional needs” way. The kind of parent who would look at this sort of situation a decide that “technically not illegal” means it’s okay to do it is going to fail their kid in so many ways that aren’t really legislatable. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/23 "2024-02-23T23:27:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The kind of parent who would look at this sort of situation a decide that “technically not illegal” means it’s okay to do it is going to fail their kid in so many ways that aren’t really legislatable. My thought, exactly. ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/24 "2024-02-24T00:00:11Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > I thought he did on purpose. Sometimes you have to prime the pump as it were. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/25 "2024-02-24T01:46:16Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The kind of parent who would look at this sort of situation a decide that “technically not illegal” means it’s okay to do it is going to fail their kid in so many ways that aren’t really legislatable. Likely the same sort of parent who’d groom their little girl for a child beauty pageant featuring elaborate makeup and hairdos, glitxy skimpy outfits, and training in how to strike alluring poses. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2024, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/26 "2024-02-24T23:07:23Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Likely the same sort of parent who’d groom their little girl for a child beauty pageant featuring elaborate makeup and hairdos, glitxy skimpy outfits, and training in how to strike alluring poses. I can’t see the OP’s paywalled link, but [this other article I found on the topic](https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/23/24080856/instagram-facebook-meta-platforming-parents-sexually-exploiting-children) suggests that the parents’ activities in this case are skating a lot closer to the child-pornography end of the spectrum. > [@](#): > > Several of the “parent-managed minor accounts” investigated sold materials to their large audiences of adult men, including photos of their children in revealing attire, exclusive chat sessions, and their children’s used leotards and cheer outfits. […] > > […] some parents were knowingly producing material of their children that pedophiles would find sexually gratifying. This included parents having sexually charged conversations about their own children and making them interact with sexual messages sent by subscribers. And selling the children’s unwashed workout clothing to adult purchasers is skeevy as hell, too. IMHO that goes way beyond teaching child beauty pageant contestants to mimic inappropriate adult dress and gestures for public performance. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/27 "2024-02-25T00:44:26Z")
I’m reminded of Brooke Shields, who appeared in Playboy at **age 10**. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/28 "2024-02-26T02:40:29Z")
> [@Moriarty](#): > > Brooke Shields, who appeared in Playboy at **age 10**. Nitpick: published by Playboy but not in the magazine. > **[Sugar and Spice and all things not so nice](https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2009/oct/03/brooke-shields-nude-child-photograph)** > > Garry Gross, Richard Prince and the story behind the Brooke Shields photograph > **[Sugar and Spice - Specific Object](https://specificobject.com/objects/info.cfm?object_id=17699)** > > Playboy Press. Sugar and Spice. ISBN 872234339. Collection of nude photographs of women by James Baes, Peter Gert, Helmut Newton, Garry Gross, William Jolitz, Stephen Anderson, Ron Mesaros, Dick Zimmerman, Antonin Kratochvil, Christian Vogt, Guido... ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2024, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/29 "2024-02-26T10:48:23Z")
Yuck yuck yuck. “posing in a marble bathtub with a seductive danger that belies her years.” yuck yuck yuck. There are no winners in that article except for Shields by getting out. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/30 "2024-02-27T08:06:20Z")
I remember the outcry when she was in Pretty Baby. Her mother swore she wore a flesh toned body suit for the nude pictures and that made the whole thing fine. I have never heard of that picture. It’s disgusting, and the fact that the creep that took it is allowed to make money off a pornographic depiction of a little girl makes me sick. This line in the lawsuit is disgusting, and how can “consent” of a 10 year old mean shit? ``` “as a young vamp and a harlot, a seasoned sexual veteran, a provocative child-woman, an erotic and sensual sex symbol, the Lolita of her generation” ``` Mommy dearest and the whole group should have been in prison for child pornography and abuse. I know Brooke Shields has done something… a book maybe? Regarding her trauma at the abuse she experienced. I hope she finds healing. God I think I need a full body sanitize after reading about all these men and the mom talking about a child like she’s a commodity. Ugh! ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/31 "2024-02-27T08:23:36Z")
I looked it up. It’s a story in People and a Hulu doc. I think I’ll watch it. She was also apparently rapd by a studio executive … natch’ when in her 20’s. I admire her courage and fortitude more all the time. Oooo, I got a birthday cake. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/32 "2024-02-27T17:33:27Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > This line in the lawsuit is disgusting, and how can “consent” of a 10 year old mean shit? I think the consent in question is from her mom, that’s how I read it. Not that it makes anything better, it just means her mom shares some of the blame. Also, again it doesn’t matter but she was 12, not 10 at the time. (Far too young either way, but just a minor correction.) ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/33 "2024-02-27T19:33:49Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Also, again it doesn’t matter but she was 12, not 10 at the time. She was 10 during the photoshoot, 11 at the time of publication, and just shy of 13 when [_People_ did a story on child porn.](https://people.com/archive/cover-story-pretty-brooke-vol-9-no-21/) ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/34 "2024-02-27T20:02:50Z")
The fact that you brought Brooke Shields up clarified why the Times story disturbed me so much. It would have been disturbing in any event, but to me, it was like a previous time had returned , when parents would allow their 14 year old daughter to date a 24 year old, or sign custody over so their 16 year old daughter can travel with a rock star or have their 11 year old play a prostitute in a movie where she has nude scenes and apparently _no one thought twice_ about the parents who did those things. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/35 "2024-02-27T20:11:59Z")
> [@Skywatcher](#): > > She was 10 during the photoshoot, 11 at the time of publication, and just shy of 13 I know she was 12 when she did _Pretty Baby_. She was cast partly because she was the correct age for the role, as Jodie Foster was considered first (after playing a child prostitute in _Taxi Driver_), but Foster was 14. It certainly appeared that Sylvanz was talking about a photoshoot for _Pretty Baby_, not the Playboy photo. > [@Sylvanz](#): > > I remember the outcry when she was in Pretty Baby. Her mother swore she wore a flesh toned body suit for the nude pictures and that made the whole thing fine. If that **wasn’t** a reference to the movie then that was a pretty confusing non sequitur. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/36 "2024-02-27T21:02:43Z")
I remember when the jennicam and the 24-hour-a-day webcams were a fad there was a huge controversy about this family that had a young girl doing things in a specifically built studio on their website and it had a message board and chatrooms where people could watch what she was doing at the time and people would send in outfits for her to wear and they could buy other worn clothing even pay for her to certain activities … it was pretty much a proto only fans/webcam girl site except she was (scantily)clothed) the story about it broke right around the time there was a huge thread here about it (which I can’t seem to find) and the controversy about it shut it down then the domain place they were using wiped it off a month or two federal laws were passed couldnt the same rules apply or does the fact its a picture and not live make a difference ? ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/37 "2024-02-27T21:13:18Z")
I was talking about the playboy thing. I had no sleep last night 'cause my ribs hurt, and I was so disgusted by the whole way Ms. Shields was treated as a child. I have always loathed her mother regarding Pretty Baby and all the rationalizations mom made about the use of her child in the film. I sort of jumbled all my disgust up in a rant that was apparently not completely intelligible. My apologies. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/38 "2024-02-27T21:15:57Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If that **wasn’t** a reference to the movie then that was a pretty confusing non sequitur. Could be clearer but I understood > [@Sylvanz](#): > > I have never heard of that picture. as referring to the one in **Sugar and Spice** , otherwise it makes no sense. The “Lolita” quote is from that photographer’s attorney. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/39 "2024-02-27T21:19:20Z")
> [@Sylvanz](#): > > I sort of jumbled all my disgust up in a rant that was apparently not completely intelligible. My apologies. I understand, I’ve had some problems sleeping lately too because of medical issues. (First a cold, then last night my freaking EoE decided to kick in again and I wasn’t sure if I even _could_ sleep but luckily I eventually did.) When I don’t get enough sleep I am barely coherent at all. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988/40 "2024-02-27T21:31:37Z")
I will admit that my husband allowed me to take one of his norco. I don’t normally take pain meds, but this hurt. I hadn’t had one of those in - well years. I forgot they keep me awake. It did help the pain though so there is that. Prolly, won’t take any of that for another decade. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-selling-photos-of-young-girls-on-instagram-wtf/997988.md?page=3)