I am sore wounded by your rapier wit.
I apologize. It was uncalled for and I regret it… Sincerely.
I still don’t understand where you are coming from and do think you are lacking… oh, I don’t know, maybe empathy. Maybe just perspective. I do think that if you went through with what you have stated you would do (destroy a continent to save your child), you would be remembered as a bigger monster than Stalin…
Because what people remember you as is important to you why?
You know, it’s things like this thread that have destroyed any respect or fondness I ever had for concepts like family or love. They aren’t warm and fuzzy ideals like people like to claim; they are excuses for the vilest, most selfish forms of behavior. As far as I can tell, love for someone and hate for everyone else are two sides of the same coin, at least for most people.
Then who would be left that you could respect? Orphans who don’t love anyone?
I think this is a rather extreme view to take, but I can see it as being consistent with your already-espoused views on religion.
EDIT: Aha, I can see what triggered my thoughts about this statement: your use of the word “excuse.” I’d like to point out that anyone can use ANYTHING as an “excuse.” I don’t think that using something that way necessarily makes the concept being dragged in inherently flawed or evil. I mean, abusers blame their beatings on their victim all the time; it doesn’t make it so. IOW, I don’t see, say, stalking as an indictment of love; I think it says more about the stalker than the reasons he’s come up with for his actions. And while I know this argument may’ve come up in all the religion arguments you’ve had, I still think it holds here.
I have one son who I love dearly.
If it came to it, goodbye Earths population
So, you have a son who you love so much you’d doom him to the torment of being lonely forever (ETA: well, for the rest of his life), losing all his loved ones and starving to death or being eaten by feral dogs?
Save me from such love.
Well he wouldn’t starve to death, I mean all that grub left and just him to eat it. 
Yes he’d be alone but he’d be alive and as for being eaten by feral dogs, seeing as he’s a cat lover I guess he’d give his body to the feral cats who would have beaten off all the dogs, cats being far smarter and all.
Don’t get your balls in an uproar my friend
Since this has turned from a straightforward poll into a debate about human worth, I am moving this thread from IMHO to Great Debates.
I’ll have to think on that one.
Probably not, for most values of ‘child.’
In fact, definitely not. I would not trust whoever was forcing the choice on me–or, rather, I would trust that personto betray me at first opportunity.
So no.
Especially since people like myself, without kids, well, i’d be okay with breaking the parents neck, throwing the kid out of the plane and taking the last parachute myself. I might feel bad about it later, but you know, its not my kid, and the parent was going to kill me for the 'chute anyway, so fuck 'em.
Hmmm…no, I wouldn’t feel that bad after all.
If I did have a child I can’t see myself murdering an innocent person for him/her. Maybe I would, it would have to be a bizarre situation in the first place.
But you’d wait until the end of the football season surely?
Yes, I would. By having a child I have taken on a certain set of obligations, namely that I have to do everything in my power to keep it alive until it can care for itself.* While all people have a right to life, my obligation to the child is stronger. Nonetheless, I would have to be held responsible for my actions.
So you can have it both ways. It is wrong to kill a person to save your own child’s life, but you have to do it anyway and face the consequences.
*Sorry about “it”. I don’t have kids, and after three lines of “his/her s/he”, it got a bit hard to read
I would not.
Only because if I did, my child, my family everyone close to me as well as myself would be horribly emotionally scarred. As much as a parent and a child need to love each other, respect for each other is just as important.
Of course. To do otherwise would be uncivilized.
I’m glad I don’t have to make the choice. That said, I’d kill anyone you’d care for me to kill in a “perfect” hypothetical scenario where killing someone would save my son from death. But I’d feel bad about it.
What a big, tough guy you are. “If there is any justice in the world, someone will kill your children” is wayyyyy more fucked up than the comment that provoked that insane response.
It might be the most evil thing I’ve seen anyone say, actually. Congratulations. You’ve just made Der Trihs’ whacky ranting sound completely sober and sane in comparison.
I’m sorry it appears you’re defective. Please turn yourself in to the nearest recycling station so we may use your components to generate a properly functioning human.
I wouldn’t hate the person I have to kill in the silly hypothetical “save my child” scenario. You don’t have to hate someone to kill them.
This just proves, like the stupid torture thread(s) from the past few weeks, that you can make goofy hypotheticals to justify whatever you want. Applied to the real world, these hypotheticals just fall apart. Nobody ever has to choose between killing an innocent person and saving their own child, in these perfect “100%” terms.
If you’re determined to find reasons to lose respect for love and family, confirmation bias will give you a thousand ways to do just that without having to resort to this petty thread.
I can beat that, though. ummm…
“If there’s any justice in the world, someone just like you will one day be forced to choose between raping and killing your entire family, using a baseball bat with rusty nails driven through it for both actions, or saving his own child from being sad because the ice-cream store was out of chocolate mint so he had to get pistachio instead.”
I suppose I could go for even eviller, but I don’t want to give the impression I’m not taking this seriously.