# "Parents you are being lied to about vaccines"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 11, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845 "2014-04-11T02:43:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/21 "2014-04-12T16:44:29Z")

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> [@SciFiSam](#):
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> My daughter was vaccinated late due to us moving doctors and not knowing what the vaccination schedule was (I relied on the doctors to notify me, and they did so, but late). She has autism.

I think probably the majority of autistic children are fully vaccinated, and their parents don’t think the vaccinations have anything to do with their autism, but those parents aren’t organized and vocal-- why would they be, really? I’m sorry your daughter is affected, and I’m glad she is vaccinated, so she won’t get sick on top of it.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/22 "2014-04-12T18:01:08Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> I dont care what the doctors say, it is wrong to be pumping chemicals into a child barely a day old before their bodies have a chance to add a few pounds, before brain tissue is fully developed, and before their immune system has a chance to start up.

Also, make sure you keep your kids away from Dihydrogen monoxide. That shit’s in everything! I blame big pharma. And Monsanto.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/23 "2014-04-12T19:17:55Z")

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I have two daughters. They were vaccinated identically. One is autistic, one is not. Now I don’t know WHAT to think!! Why, it’s almost as if the vaccinations were totally irrelevant to their autism status!

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/24 "2014-04-12T19:23:59Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I have two daughters. They were vaccinated identically. One is autistic, one is not. Now I don’t know WHAT to think!! Why, it’s almost as if the vaccinations were totally irrelevant to their autism status!

Mm-hm. Three kids, one of them autistic, all of them vaccinated identically.

While it’s true that it’s difficult to change the minds of people who are already entrenched in their vaccine conspiracy theories, I think that the more accurate information out there, the better, because then you can reach people who haven’t made a decision or become entrenched yet. I had my oldest child in 2002, when the “vaccines cause autism” scare was in full fury, and there were a LOT of scary websites about how vaccines could damage your child, and not a whole lot of debunkings of those scary websites.

These days I think the debunking-to-scare-site ratio is a lot better, which is a good thing for new parents.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/25 "2014-04-12T22:07:58Z")

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I am jealous.

I’ve been accused by antivaxers many times of being a Pharma Shill, had my professional qualifications questioned and seen a wide assortment of ad hominems. But never have I been accused of being an “Agent 666”.

Obviously I need to update my profile photo to the one with horns and a tail.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [April 12, 2014, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/26 "2014-04-12T23:14:51Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I have two daughters. They were vaccinated identically. One is autistic, one is not. Now I don’t know WHAT to think!! Why, it’s almost as if the vaccinations were totally irrelevant to their autism status!

You win the thread!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2014, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/27 "2014-04-13T00:52:54Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I have two daughters. They were vaccinated identically. One is autistic, one is not. Now I don’t know WHAT to think!! Why, it’s almost as if the vaccinations were totally irrelevant to their autism status!

Right. Friend of mine has identical twin boys. One is autistic, the other isn’t. Amazing how it is that non-scientists think their feelings trump science, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Askance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askance/32/8281_2.png) [@Askance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askance)\
**Post date:** [April 14, 2014, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parents-you-are-being-lied-to-about-vaccines/685845/28 "2014-04-14T02:00:06Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> My son, who has severe autism, was vaccinated the second day of his life. I dont care what the doctors say, it is wrong to be pumping chemicals into a child barely a day old before their bodies have a chance to add a few pounds, before brain tissue is fully developed, and before their immune system has a chance to start up.

Vaccines aren’t “chemicals” in the sense you mean it. They are as natural as the diseases they protect against.

And, your child has had some level of immune system since it was born. There’s simply no such thing as it “starting up” at some arbitrary later point. But for it to develop further it needs challenges from infective agents; wouldn’t you rather that come from dead viruses than live ones?

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> We waited awhile for our second son to get his first vaccinations and he does not have autism. I dont think it is a coincidence.

Nevertheless, it is. The facts trump your opinion, and the lack of any connection between autism and vaccination is now as certain as anything can be in human health.

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