# \[Parks and Recreation 5/19/11 \] Li'l Sebastian has died. Will anything ever be the same? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [May 20, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568 "2011-05-20T14:50:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/1 "2011-05-20T14:50:35Z")
I’m so overcome with emotion it’s hard to type right now. I know in time, I’ll come to terms with it, but how will I make through the day? Everything I see that reminds me of him just gets me all teary again. How is everyone else dealing with this? Also, I definitely think that song was 5000 times better than Candle in teh Wind. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/2 "2011-05-20T14:56:35Z")
As much trouble as we have getting regular discussions going of “Parks and Recreation”, I don’t think overly vague, misspelled thread titles are going to help. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/3 "2011-05-20T15:19:28Z")
No kidding. I thought some rapper had OD’d or something. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/4 "2011-05-20T15:39:01Z")
I have no idea what this thread is about if Li’l Sebastion _isn’t_ a rapper who OD’ed. ---
**Author:** ![installLSC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/54ee81/32.png) [@installLSC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/installLSC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/5 "2011-05-20T15:41:06Z")
I thought it was some weird nickname for John Sebastian of Lovin’ Spoonful/“Welcome Back” fame. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/6 "2011-05-20T15:42:56Z")
I thought it might be about [Peter, Paul, and Mary’s](http://music.aol.com/song/peter-paul-and-mary/sebastian/11626926) (bird?) ---
**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/7 "2011-05-20T15:46:39Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > I have no idea what this thread is about if Li’l Sebastion _isn’t_ a rapper who OD’ed. I didn’t even figure on the rapper angle. I feel a whoosh a-coming. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/8 "2011-05-20T15:46:57Z")
Ron, as always, stole the show. I also loved Part 1 where he had to swivel away from the annoying public. Is Leslie really going to give Ben up? ☹ ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/9 "2011-05-20T15:53:21Z")
**Tripolar** – it’s [a forum rule](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6769973&postcount=6) that you give threads helpful titles. Please do so in the future. I have added what I infer is the correct identifying info to the thread title – if what I added is not correct, could someone let me know ASAP? Thanks, **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/10 "2011-05-20T15:57:46Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > No kidding. I thought some rapper had OD’d or something. Yeah, me too. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/11 "2011-05-20T15:58:05Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > **Tripolar** – it’s [a forum rule](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=6769973&postcount=6) that you give threads helpful titles. Please do so in the future. > > I have added what I infer is the correct identifying info to the thread title – if what I added is not correct, could someone let me know ASAP? > > Thanks, > > **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator I was ignorant of the law. My apologies. The thread title is fine with me. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/12 "2011-05-20T16:00:01Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > Ron, as always, stole the show. I also loved Part 1 where he had to swivel away from the annoying public. > > Is Leslie really going to > > give Ben up? ☹ Of course not. But she has to. So she’s not going to do it. But she will. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/13 "2011-05-20T16:13:13Z")
Ben standing up to Marlene was great too. I loved how nervous he was and then after coaching from Leslie, he managed to win her over. I wonder if Marlene knew about Ben and Leslie before Ben told her… ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/14 "2011-05-20T16:21:29Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > Ben standing up to Marlene was great too. I loved how nervous he was and then after coaching from Leslie, he managed to win her over. > > I wonder if Marlene knew about Ben and Leslie before Ben told her… “I was thinking of another quote from Bill Watterson, ‘You need a lobotomy, I’ll get a saw.’” ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/15 "2011-05-20T16:22:37Z")
So what does Tom’s management group actually do, and why is Detlef Shrempf involved? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/16 "2011-05-20T16:27:33Z")
So the winery is okay? Whew. I missed a good bit of the show, especially the end. So Ben stands up to Marlene several times and they continue to talk in the room alone while Leslie’s chatting at the camera. Behind here Marlene has her hand now on Ben’s knee. Was his sudden confidence a turn-on for her? ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/17 "2011-05-20T16:29:12Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > So what does Tom’s management group actually do, and why is Detlef Shrempf involved? They’re an entertainment management conglomeration. I suspect all they’ll do is marketing and creating videos. In actuality, what they’ll do is convert people’s home movies to DVD… Detlef is there to provide ambiance. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/18 "2011-05-20T16:41:35Z")
Tom is going to end up back at the Parks and Rec department… to Ron’s detached joy. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/19 "2011-05-20T17:07:24Z")
Well Tom has no interest in the department and does very little work, so Ron really doesn’t want to lose him. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568/20 "2011-05-20T17:13:10Z")
Since we haven’t been doing episode-by-episode threads on this show, I’ll just mention here that I really enjoyed April’s roleplaying as a rich window in the Snake Juice episode (“The Fight”?). And I just realized that the Douche was Nick Hedge, the eternal doctoral student, in the tragically short-lived _Cavemen_. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parks-and-recreation-5-19-11-lil-sebastian-has-died-will-anything-ever-be-the-same/582568.md?page=2)