# Parts you hate in songs you love. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 10, 2008, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571 "2008-12-10T16:56:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/21 "2008-12-10T19:03:31Z")
> [@WreckingCrew](#): > > Proud Mary?!?! It is only 3:07. Do you mean their version of Heard it Through the Grapevine? Er…I think I do. :smack: Thanks for the correction. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/22 "2008-12-10T19:54:13Z")
When Paul McCartney’s _Live & Let Die_ breaks into “What does it matter to ya” is when the wheels fall off for me. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/23 "2008-12-10T20:18:05Z")
> [@ShelliBean](#): > > Gasp!! I think I need to go lay down for a while. I’m fine until the “birds” start “chirping.” Then I want to plunge chopsticks into my ears until they meet. ---
**Author:** ![Labtrash](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/labtrash/32/528_2.png) [@Labtrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Labtrash)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/24 "2008-12-10T20:18:14Z")
> [@Chez\_Guevara](#): > > Staying with Pink Floyd, the clocks at the beginning of _Time_ scare the shit out of me. I wake up to that every day(I use my cell phone as my alarm clock). It REALLY works ! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/25 "2008-12-10T20:19:46Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > What’s wrong with it? [For songs of that era and style, a sax solo like that doesn’t strike me as incongruous at all.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=387629) I dunno, maybe I’m just prejudiced against saxophones. To my ear, it just sounds jarring. A Neil Young example, from _Cortez the Killer_; the lines “…hate was just a legend, war was never known…” always make me cringe. No, no, no! Hate was very much not a legend and war certainly was known! Great song, shocking history. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/26 "2008-12-10T20:24:08Z")
> [@labtrash](#): > > I wake up to that every day(I use my cell phone as my alarm clock). > > It REALLY works ! :eek: Never thought of that song but I ought to give it a try sometime. I _have_ used Oingo Boingo’s “Wake up, it’s 1984”…it starts “Wake up (wake up) won’t you listen to me?” in increasing urgency and volume. ---
**Author:** ![Stauderhorse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@Stauderhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stauderhorse)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/27 "2008-12-10T20:25:10Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > I can only think of a couple at the moment: > > Disturbed’s “Down With the Sickness” - Unlike the radio edit, the album version not only doesn’t have the swearing bleeped out, but also contains a screaming rant in the middle of the song against his mother and her years of abuse. It really doesn’t work, and breaks up the flow of the song completely. I’d love to edit the version I have on my iPod to cut out the screamy bit. Yes, yes, and yes. I love the song but that screaming bit makes no sense in the context of anything and is really annoying to boot. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/28 "2008-12-10T20:29:30Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Wilco’s “Less Than You Think” - The song is 15 minutes long, and the last 11 minutes or so are basically an electronic hum. Jeff Tweedy said how he knows most people will hate it, but he finds it cathartic and interesting when he sits down to listen to it. At one point, I recall reading a comment from him that said something to the effect of it making the album a different experience for each listener, each time, depending on when or if you skip the rest of the song. I understand his point but I’ve found that Filter’s similar experiments in long trailing-off songs (“Miss Blue”, “The 4th”) work better for me. Jeff wrote a piece for the New York Times about his experience with migraine headaches (it was part of a longer series about migraine sufferers) and he mentioned that he was trying to express musically what it felt like to have an oncoming migraine–he also added wryly that he doesn’t know why anybody would want a musical expression of a migraine, but there it is. As for me, I could probably do without the ten minutes of repetition in **Spiders (Kidsmoke)**. In the same article, Tweedy said that in one session, the pain was so intense he couldn’t do much more than play the same riff over and over. Which is fair enough, but it’s really only a three minute song. On the plus side, though, it’s fucking awesome live, so I can forgive it. (Come to think of it **Less Than You Think** is pretty cool live, too, complete with 12 minutes of feedback–they’ve done it between encores). ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/29 "2008-12-10T20:34:41Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > When Paul McCartney’s _Live & Let Die_ breaks into “What does it matter to ya” is when the wheels fall off for me. The wheels were never attached for me. ---
**Author:** ![Hi\_Neighbor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hi_neighbor/32/494_2.png) [@Hi\_Neighbor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hi_Neighbor)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/30 "2008-12-10T20:47:06Z")
Solsbury Hill by Peter Gabriel. How it ends is just horrible. And what part of Layla are you guys talking about?!??!?!?! ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/31 "2008-12-10T20:49:35Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > Jeff wrote a piece for the New York Times about his experience with migraine headaches (it was part of a longer series about migraine sufferers) and he mentioned that he was trying to express musically what it felt like to have an oncoming migraine–he also added wryly that he doesn’t know why anybody would want a musical expression of a migraine, but there it is. > > As for me, I could probably do without the ten minutes of repetition in **Spiders (Kidsmoke)**. In the same article, Tweedy said that in one session, the pain was so intense he couldn’t do much more than play the same riff over and over. Which is fair enough, but it’s really only a three minute song. On the plus side, though, it’s fucking awesome live, so I can forgive it. (Come to think of it **Less Than You Think** is pretty cool live, too, complete with 12 minutes of feedback–they’ve done it between encores). Considering that I suffer migraines too, that’s probably extra reason for me to hate it. 😃 I knew he got migraines as well, among other things from seeing him deal with one in the documentary “I Am Trying to Break Your Heart.” Good point on “Spiders (Kidsmoke)” - I loaded the live version off **Kicking Television** onto my iPod, instead of the album version. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/32 "2008-12-10T20:51:47Z")
The song “Ship of Fools” by the Residents, on the album “Our Finest Flowers”. I was just listening to this yesterday. It’s got this really moving and beautiful and frightening meditation on hatred (if you can believe it) interrupted by this absolutely cheesy and cliche meditation on pain and pleasure. Very aggravating. Then it goes back to the hatred meditation and ends well _musically_ though not _lyrically_, but in all, I forgive it. Lyrics can be found at the Resident’s own website [here](http://www.residents.com/historical/page0/page18/page101/page101.html), toward the very bottom of the page. But the lyrics don’t come off on the page as well as they do in musical context. (BTW the album I hear the song on is Our Finest Flowers, which takes some of their songs from previous albums and completely re-records them from the bottom up, often with a very different sound, so if you’ve only heard the song on some other album you may not have heard what I heard.) -FrL- ---
**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/33 "2008-12-10T21:16:23Z")
Tom Petty’s “American Girl” is a nice little pop ditty until the disco bass solo in the middle kicks in. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/34 "2008-12-10T21:18:00Z")
> [@Hi\_Neighbor](#): > > And what part of Layla are you guys talking about?!??!?!?! The ending piano/guitar instrumental that sounds like it should run during the closing credits of some 80’s Shirley McClain melodrama. ---
**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/35 "2008-12-10T22:20:30Z")
Bear in mind there’s two\* very different recordings of Layla (both by the same guy); I’d only ever heard one of them until a couple of years ago, and I’m not aware of the piano/guitar instrumental because it was probably on that version - which I didn’t like at all and changed channel on partway through. The only one I’d ever heard before that was an ‘unplugged’ version, which veers off into applause for far too long - necessitating me downloading an mp3 editor so I could manually chop it off. Long applause bothers me on a recording. It doesn’t make me feel engaged; it makes me acutely aware that another song should be happening by now! \*ETA: Make that ‘at least two’. For all I know, there’s more. ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/36 "2008-12-10T22:21:47Z")
Janis Joplin’s screechin’. Any song. Just coulda done without it. ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/37 "2008-12-10T22:25:42Z")
> [@KneadToKnow](#): > > Obligatory “Layla” mention. Yeah, I know! The song would be _so_ much better without that first 3 minutes of filler. I don’t know why they tacked that on to such a lovely piano song. ---
**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/38 "2008-12-10T23:34:23Z")
The slow bridge to the Genesis song “Land of Confusion.” _I remember long ago, when the sun was shining…_ Seems like Phil Collins has this thing for lyrics where you’re sittin’ there, trying to remember, trying to think, standin’ there, standing there trying to remember, sittin’ there trying to think, etc. Just get back to the kickass drum beat. “Sympathy For the Devil.” I love the bongo riff that opens the song but then the song just goes downhill. That drum riff should really be attached to some 70s Steve Wonder funk. The “lyrics? what lyrics?” part of “Another One Bites the Dust.” Nobody’s got a clue what Freddy’s saying and you can’t dance to it. Lose-lose. The way AC/DC’s song “T.N.T.” just sort of falls apart at the end without any shape or momentum, like a crepe rolling downhill into a lake. That song deserves a better ending. ---
**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/39 "2008-12-11T00:38:41Z")
Lynnyrd Skynnyrd’s “Sweet Home Alabama”. You know the part where he says, “Turn it up!”? That’s when I turn it off. Does anyone know what this song has to do with KFC? ---
**Author:** ![ShelliBean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@ShelliBean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShelliBean)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571/40 "2008-12-11T00:45:07Z")
> [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](#): > > Yeah, I know! The song would be _so_ much better without that first 3 minutes of filler. I don’t know why they tacked that on to such a lovely piano song. Well that’s what I always thought. That is what I assumed K2K was talking about. A youtube clip of the song (an excellent version, by the way) is [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtTBQohdi_0&feature=related). Go to 3:10 and you’ll see what I’m talking about. I am not hearing the birds… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/parts-you-hate-in-songs-you-love/476571.md?page=3)