# Pastor to the AR 15 Protester.. Sickening **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 28, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004 "2009-08-28T06:27:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/41 "2009-08-31T15:28:51Z")
All except for the part where you hate America. Let’s get with the program, huh? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/42 "2009-08-31T15:52:52Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > All except for the part where you hate America. Let’s get with the program, huh? It’s implied by my hatred of freedom. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/43 "2009-08-31T16:29:17Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > I read today that this nutter is now using his house of worship to wish his God would give Barack Obama brain cancer, Kennedy-style. I predict this will ultimately lead to a Highlander-style battle to the death with Fred Phelps. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/44 "2009-08-31T16:31:58Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I predict this will ultimately lead to a Highlander-style battle to the death with Fred Phelps. Now, Universe, I know I haven’t been a very good pantheist, but if you could give me this as a sign… ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/45 "2009-08-31T16:32:42Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > It’s a variation on the saying: > > If all that you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Aw, you missed a chance to quote a tweet from Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-IA (still spreading the Death Panel lie, incidentally): > [@](#): > > Pres Obama while u sightseeing in Paris u said ‘time to delivr on healthcare’ When you are a “hammer” u think evrything is NAIL I’m no NAIL ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/46 "2009-08-31T16:34:32Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > When you pour salt on them, they melt…well, I don’t know exactly what chemical reaction takes place, but they do dissolve into goo slowly. Slugs too. I’m pretty sure it’s just dehydration. You can dry fish out by covering it with salt, too. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/47 "2009-08-31T16:53:40Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I predict this will ultimately lead to a Highlander-style battle to the death with Fred Phelps. No. Holy ground. To them, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/48 "2009-08-31T21:34:22Z")
More details appear. Seems the gun toting dude at an Obama rally agreed with the pastor. > [@](#): > > **Gun-Toter From Obama Event: I, Like My Pastor, Want The President To Die** > > Chris Broughton, the man who brought an AR-15 rifle and a handgun to an Arizona Obama rally earlier this month, says he “concurs” with his fundamentalist pastor’s prayer for President Obama “to die and go to hell.” > > \ > > …Broughton said of Anderson’s controversial August 16 “Why I Hate Barack Obama” sermon: “I concur, I think we’d be better off if God would send [Obama] where he’s going now instead of later. [Obama] is destroying our country.” > > And when a reporter followed up with, “you’re not advocating violence against the president?” Broughton, who has previously said his weapons are for defense, says “I’m not going to answer that question directly.” > > “I don’t care how God does it, I’m not going into further detail than that,” Broughton says. “It would be better now than later.” > > SOURCE: [http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/gun\_toter\_i\_like\_my\_pastor\_want\_obama\_to\_die.php?ref=fpa](http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/gun_toter_i_like_my_pastor_want_obama_to_die.php?ref=fpa) ---
**Author:** ![Kal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kal)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2009, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/49 "2009-08-31T22:33:46Z")
Hmm. Can’t help but think that’s one of those questions that you probably shouldn’t be coy about answering in the negative, even if you keep your fingers crossed at the time. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/50 "2009-09-01T01:38:25Z")
False equivalence between socialism, communism, & abortion. Scary. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/51 "2009-09-01T03:26:33Z")
You know, if we ever do start seizing everyone’s guns, we really ought to thank Chris Broughton. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/52 "2009-09-01T03:56:25Z")
How about we just seize the high-powered rifles? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/53 "2009-09-01T04:41:40Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > How about we just seize the high-powered rifles? As rifles go, an AR 15 isn’t very high powered. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/54 "2009-09-01T04:48:57Z")
And the guy that would rather shoot it out than give it up, he’s only about medium crazy? ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/55 "2009-09-01T05:08:46Z")
> [@Gorsnak](#): > > As rifles go, an AR 15 isn’t very high powered. But it’s scary looking! :eek: d&r ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/56 "2009-09-01T05:14:20Z")
So long as its more scary than the guy holding it, I’m cool. Just tip my hat politely and make myself elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/57 "2009-09-01T05:30:48Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > How about we just seize the high-powered rifles? Just on the off chance that this was not a whoosh (I sure hope it was), “high-powered” is a giant category of rifles which includes most common hunting cartridges for large game. (When was the last time anyone was murdered with a .458 Win Mag or a .338 Lapua?) Sorry, I realize maybe two people here will even know what the hell I’m talking about. Anyway, rifles in general account for a very small proportion of all crimes committed with firearms, and rifles like AR-15s (which are NOT “high-powered” in any way; in fact, many veterans who served with the Garand or the M14 and then had to adopt the M16 bitched about the .223 round being too weak, and they continue to do so) are an even smaller percentage. The people who oppose “assault weapons” are pretty much to a man (or woman - actually the anti-gun movement is spearheaded by women) people who know absolutely NOTHING about rifles. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/58 "2009-09-01T05:39:20Z")
I think what you mean to say is that they know nothing of the minutia about rifles with which you are obsessed. ---
**Author:** ![Stealth\_Potato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Stealth\_Potato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stealth_Potato)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/59 "2009-09-01T05:50:23Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I think what you mean to say is that they know nothing of the minutia about rifles with which you are obsessed. _Minutia?_ It’s all very well and good to call them “minutia,” but there are people actively trying to _legislate_ on the basis of tremendous misunderstanding regarding these small and insignificant details. Don’t try to make it sound like we’re somehow being irrational or “obsessive” when we make a big deal about these distinctions that the less knowledgeable are actively trying to use against us. There’s nothing wrong with not knowing the difference between an AR-15 and an M-16, or even the difference between an Ruger 10/22 and 20mm anti-tank rifle. The problem arises when you try to pass laws about who’s allowed to own what based on these trifling (and, from the perspective of violent crime, utterly irrelevant) details about which you know absolutely nothing. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004/60 "2009-09-01T06:09:07Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > I think what you mean to say is that they know nothing of the minutia about rifles with which you are obsessed. Thereby proving my point far better than I ever could - you don’t know what on earth you’re talking about. If you think the difference between a full-power cartridge and an intermediate cartridge is “minutia,” then you truly know nothing about rifles. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-to-the-ar-15-protester-sickening/508004.md?page=4)