# Pastor urinates on woman during flight

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [October 29, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222 "2020-10-29T16:58:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/1 "2020-10-29T16:58:41Z")

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Flight To Las Vegas Lord works in mysterious ways.

> **[Raleigh pastor apologizes after incident where he urinated on sleeping passenger](https://www.wral.com/raleigh-pastor-apologizes-after-incident-where-he-urinated-on-sleeping-passenger/19359365/)**
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> A Raleigh pastor has been ticketed for assault after investigators say he urinated on a sleeping passenger during a Delta flight.

At least he was not with 2 hookers at his church.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/2 "2020-10-29T17:02:16Z")

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“Chalmers said he would release a statement clarifying what happened on his website soon.”

What’s he going to say? “I got drunk, took a sleep med on top of it and that naturally led to my mistaking a female passenger for a urinal”?

He’d be better off claiming Satan made him do it.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/3 "2020-10-29T17:13:22Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> At least he was not with 2 hookers at his church.

That would be worse? I guess, to me, it would depend on whether or not the sex workers could be considered to have given meaningful consent. Apart from that aspect, I don’t see how that would be worse than peeing on a sleeping, non-consenting stranger.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/4 "2020-10-29T17:17:22Z")

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As I like to say, if you want to truly understand Christianity, sometimes you have to ignore all the ‘Christians’ that you know because you’ll find bad and sometimes abhorrent behavior amongst all of us. We are all human, dontchaknow! 🙂

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**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/5 "2020-10-29T17:40:44Z")

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As a kid I remember a time when I got up out of bed in the middle of the night to pee. Walked to the bathroom and the toilet and was peeing just to wake up in my bed that I just wet. I was doubly ‘pissed’ about this because I made the decision and effort to get out of bed and walk to the bathroom to pee.

So under such mediation yes I can see that could happen.

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**Author:** ![Guy\_Incognito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guy_incognito/32/3920_2.png) [@Guy\_Incognito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guy_Incognito)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/6 "2020-10-29T18:07:03Z")

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He might have better luck blaming it on Ambien if he had hollered 'the power of Christ compels thee!" while it was happening.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/7 "2020-10-29T18:28:37Z")

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The female passenger is probably now pathogen free and can expect a longer life … what with her having been _pasteur_ized and all.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/8 "2020-10-29T18:45:37Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> “Chalmers said he would release a statement clarifying what happened on his website soon.”
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> What’s he going to say? “I got drunk, took a sleep med on top of it and that naturally led to my mistaking a female passenger for a urinal”?
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> He’d be better off claiming Satan made him do it.

It’ll be interesting to see what he says. I’m sure he’ll consult with lawyers before such statement.

Here’s his website, for “Love Ministries” – [https://www.lovewinsministries.com/](https://www.lovewinsministries.com/). Stay tuned, folks.

Interestingly, as I was typing in the search terms to find that site, as I was entering daniel chalmers pastor… Google filled in popular search strings and one of the top ones was daniel chalmers pastor net worth.

Yeah, it figures. I’m sure people are curious about that.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/9 "2020-10-29T19:13:09Z")

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Was the woman holding a urinal cake on her lap?

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/10 "2020-10-29T19:20:01Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> That would be worse? I guess, to me, it would depend on whether or not the sex workers could be considered to have given meaningful consent.

You may not have seen recent coverage of that exact incident, and the thread here about it. Yes, the sex workers were consenting; the two of them, along with the priest, were arrested on indecency charges, because they were visible through the church’s door.

> [@Priest caught having sex with 2 women in church](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/priest-caught-having-sex-with-2-women-in-church/922574):
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> At least they were over 18 and not boys. I wonder if he got a discount by blessing them before they started.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/11 "2020-10-29T19:26:04Z")

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Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “Peace on you,” doesn’t it?

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**Author:** ![WildaBeast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wildabeast/32/6_2.png) [@WildaBeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WildaBeast)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/12 "2020-10-29T19:36:29Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> So under such mediation yes I can see that could happen.

And some rather bizarre sleepwalking behavior is a known side effect of Ambien in some people.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/13 "2020-10-29T19:38:06Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “Peace on you,” doesn’t it?

The Sharing of the Peace. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/14 "2020-10-29T19:43:21Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> > [@cochrane](#):
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> > Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “Peace on you,” doesn’t it?
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> The Sharing of the Peace. 🙂

Also, sprinkling of holy water.

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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2020, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/15 "2020-10-29T20:37:11Z")

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An interview with the passenger by local authorities produced the following exchange:

Q: “Ma’am, would you say that the liquid that was raining down on you, and awakened you, was particularly warm ?”

A: “No. More like Ambien temperature.”

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/16 "2020-10-30T00:40:07Z")

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The “Ambien made me do it” defense has a checkered history, but has worked for some people, including two separate Kennedy family members.\*

It didn’t especially help Roseanne Barr.

> **[Roseanne Barr Just Used the 'Ambien Defense.' So Have Accused Murderers and...](https://time.com/5295281/ambien-defense-history/)**
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> A history of the Ambien defense

\*Patrick Kennedy, a former Congressman, crashed his car into a barricade in D.C. one night in 2006, appeared intoxicated, but was taken home without a field sobriety test being done. Later he blamed the Ambien and Phenergan he’d been taking (he had a history of cocaine and alcohol abuse, but nope, it had to be the prescription drugs).

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**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/17 "2020-10-30T02:16:26Z")

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This happened to R.E.M. guitarist Peter Buck in April 2001; had it happened 6 months later, it quite likely would have cost him his life.

> **[Buck's Air Rage Trial Heats Up](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/bucks-air-rage-trial-heats-up-193242/)**
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> British press having a field day with R.E.M. guitarist

I heard about it while driving to work the next day, and the DJ said, “This is not Ozzy.”

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/18 "2020-10-30T03:56:18Z")

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The guy was in an unusual environment, took an unusual (for him) but common medication, had a side effect of unusual dreams, could not distinguish a urinal from a passenger with his eyes shut. It was a perfect storm, and based on my analogous experiences could have happened to me. But since I am not a pastor nor a Florida Man, it would have passed unremarked.

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**Author:** ![Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@Disgruntled\_Penguin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Disgruntled_Penguin)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/19 "2020-10-30T07:57:53Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> It was a perfect storm

That’s what she said.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pastor-urinates-on-woman-during-flight/924222/20 "2020-10-30T16:45:09Z")

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> [@jtur88](#):
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> The guy was in an unusual environment, took an unusual (for him) but common medication

…and had a reported breath alcohol concentration of .175, over twice the legal limit.

Update: the Peeing Pastor is being sued for $2 million by his victim, which seems a wee excessive. But she’s just looking out for #1.

Her lawyer is, naturally, Geoffrey Fieger.

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