# Pat Boone - Your argument sucks **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 10, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170 "2006-06-10T05:20:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jebus\_H.Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jebus\_H.Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebus_H.Christ)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/1 "2006-06-10T05:20:58Z")
From Pat: > [@](#): > > At that, an angry reporter intruded, “All you people are religious – you’re quoting the Bible and God. What about those of us who don’t believe any of that – is there any other argument against same-sex marriage?” > > He thought he would stump the preacher, but he was wrong. > > "“Why, sure, son,” responded the minister. “Look in any dictionary in the world. You’ll see the definition of marriage as a contract, a union, between a man and a woman. Nothin’ else there. If you don’t believe God, at least believe Webster’s Dictionary!” > > God bless that man – and God help us to wake up and stir ourselves, before the “little people” have us completely powerless. Pat, maybe you should have checked Webster’s before you wrote that. From Merriam-Webster: > [@](#): > > (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage Dumbass. > **[Definition of MARRIAGE](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage)** > > the state of being united as spouses in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law; the mutual relation of married persons : wedlock; the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage… See the full definition ---
**Author:** ![Jebus\_H.Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jebus\_H.Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebus_H.Christ)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/2 "2006-06-10T05:25:56Z")
Pat’s article: [http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE\_ID=50588](http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50588) ---
**Author:** ![cerberus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/71e660/32.png) [@cerberus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cerberus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/3 "2006-06-10T05:44:01Z")
Actually, the MW definition of marriage appears to permit adult siblings and other relatives of the same or opposite sex to marry, and in theory might also allow multiple marriages for the same partners. Never mind the possibilities of common law marriage. At one level, religious marriage is a sacrament, and if people want a religious marriage, then they’re at the mercy of the religious authorities. At another level, marriage is a social contract between consenting adults involving joint estate, shared power of medical attorney and child custodial rights and modified taxation laws and eligibility for familial/dependent employer benefits. The secular marriage option need not respect any particular religious requirements. ---
**Author:** ![kittenblue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ba8739/32.png) [@kittenblue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kittenblue)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/4 "2006-06-10T06:57:13Z")
I’d be interested in when that M-W definition was last updated. I don’t have a print dictionary handy right now, but I’m pretty sure the term same-sex marriage isn’t in the one we’ve had downstairs on the stand in the living room for the past thirty years. It is possible to find a dictionary definition that can support the other side of the argument as well. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Jebus\_H.Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jebus\_H.Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jebus_H.Christ)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/5 "2006-06-10T07:17:00Z")
> [@kittenblue](#): > > It is possible to find a dictionary definition that can support the other side of the argument as well. Just sayin’. Boone waid Webster’s. That is the current update of Webster’s\*. - Actually there is further update, but it has the same defintion. ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/6 "2006-06-10T07:34:05Z")
Pat Boone [insert fundie name here] talks shit about mariage… in other news, the sun rose this morning, Bill O’Reilly is still a jerk, Clinton got a blowjob and mustard is yellow. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/7 "2006-06-10T08:15:33Z")
It’s a stupid argument even if he was right - the idiot was trying to use a circular definition to end a debate. If he’s wrong, so much the better. ---
**Author:** ![betenoir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@betenoir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/betenoir)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/8 "2006-06-10T08:25:32Z")
> [@Jebus H. Christ](#): > > Pat’s article: > > [http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE\_ID=50588](http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50588) Oh my god. I really didn’t need to read that. So my acknowedment that my aunt is married to …my other aunt…is the same as having _worms_ ??? What an incredibly sick sad thought. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/9 "2006-06-10T12:16:42Z")
Pat also said in that piece > [@](#): > > Still, we have watched, apparently dumbstruck and powerless, as our kids were denied the right to pray, voluntarily, in school; Personally I think his brain was affected when he exposed himself a few years ago to too much heavy metal(s). 🙂 And the preacher’s story about water and hydrogen peroxide sure sounds glurgy. I’m sure my mom will email me this in the next week. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/10 "2006-06-10T13:06:29Z")
> [@Jebus H. Christ](#): > > From Pat: (snip) God help us to wake up and stir ourselves, before the “little people” have us completely powerless. So, not only am I supposed to believe in God, but also leprechauns? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/11 "2006-06-10T13:08:49Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > And the preacher’s story about water and hydrogen peroxide sure sounds glurgy. I’m sure my mom will email me this in the next week. ☹ Plus it’s wrong. Hydrogen peroxide is H[sub]2[/sub]O[sub]2[/sub], while the pastor says it’s “two parts oxygen with one part hydrogen.” ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/12 "2006-06-10T13:44:53Z")
You know, it’s too bad Pat never married. Yes, he claims to have wed some woman, but that marriage was never solemnized before a clergyman in the apostolic succession. Therefore, it’s not _really_ a marriage. Or, two can play at that game. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/13 "2006-06-10T14:33:34Z")
If you read daugher Cherry’s book “Starving for Attention,” you find out Pat & Shirley did not have a good marriage and were bad parents, not allowing their four daughers to rebel during their teenage years. Sherry admits that most of her anorexia can be traced to her parents not letting her grow up. She only recovered after telling her parents to go to hell. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/14 "2006-06-10T15:15:08Z")
> [@if6was9](#): > > …and mustard is yellow. Well, if we can [change one of them](http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p24161075-k24-g4-~purple+mustard-nover?sourceid=13), then maybe… ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/15 "2006-06-10T15:27:19Z")
> [@Slithy Tove](#): > > So, not only am I supposed to believe in God, but also leprechauns? Goddamn right you are. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![if6was9](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e47c2d/32.png) [@if6was9](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/if6was9)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/16 "2006-06-10T18:27:27Z")
> [@Hal Briston](#): > > Well, if we can [change one of them](http://www.shop.com/op/aprod-p24161075-k24-g4-~purple+mustard-nover?sourceid=13), then maybe… OH MY GOD! I was going to say ketchup is red, but we all know what happened to that… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/17 "2006-06-10T20:19:13Z")
> [@Jebus H. Christ](#): > > Boone waid Webster’s. That is the current update of Webster’s\*. > > - Actually there is further update, but it has the same defintion. Yeah, then Webster’s is full of shit, who are you trying to kid JHC? Opposite sex has always been the only definition of marriage, shit. Stop wasting our time with this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/18 "2006-06-10T20:23:49Z")
> [@Operation Ripper](#): > > Yeah, then Webster’s is full of shit, who are you trying to kid JHC? Opposite sex has always been the only definition of marriage, shit. Stop wasting our time with this crap. Is this a whoosh or are you serious? ---
**Author:** ![Operation\_Ripper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/34f0e0/32.png) [@Operation\_Ripper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Operation_Ripper)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/19 "2006-06-10T20:35:00Z")
> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > Is this a whoosh or are you serious? More infected and throbbing than serious. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2006, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170/20 "2006-06-10T23:14:26Z")
I read the OP and thought, _Pat Boone’s a minister?_ **Where did we go wrong???!?** If it’s any consolation Pat is definitely going to hell, to pay for all the good rock/blues songs he emasculated back in the '50s. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-boone-your-argument-sucks/360170.md?page=2)