# Pat Buchanon..Wow.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 16, 2004, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343 "2004-05-16T00:32:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Otters\_We\_Love](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3da27b/32.png) [@Otters\_We\_Love](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otters_We_Love)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/41 "2004-05-16T21:26:08Z")

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Buchanan a racist?  
Then why was his running mate a black woman?

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/42 "2004-05-16T21:28:10Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I’m not sure Americans ever truly grasped the concept of nationalism, actually. You guys love your country because it represents freedom, or democracy, or capitalism, or the Constitution, or some other abstract ideal. _Real_ nationalists love they’re country because it’s their country.

BINGO

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/43 "2004-05-16T21:32:56Z")

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> [@Reeder](#):
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> Neither is Duhbya with real conservatives.
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> Isn’t he called…George “I never saw a spending bill I didn’t like” Bush by them?

Which would

> [@Reeder](#):
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> Neither is Duhbya with real conservatives.
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> Isn’t he called…George “I never saw a spending bill I didn’t like” Bush by them?

Which would make him a Social Democrat? I’m starting to think Neal Boortz has exposed a rather large elephant in the room. Everything is shifting left (from a social spending perspective).

That means Kerry is required (by party lines) to suggest a social spending program to the left of Bush. Both parties exhibit a certain amount of vote-buying so it should be an expensive campaign (on paper anyway). World events will probably play out during the election so it’s all a political crapshoot at this point. Just an observation on my part.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2004, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/44 "2004-05-16T23:17:15Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> > [@Latro](#):
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> > _Real_ nationalists love a country because they have built it themselves and took it from the sea.
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> Atlantis?

Holland.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/45 "2004-05-17T03:09:35Z")

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**Simon** , there is a memorable, revealing quote from PB – do a search on _Buchanan_; _Vilnius_; _Burundi_; and _white_.

> [@John Mace](#):
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> Not handy. Have you never heard him talk about immigration? He’s on record as wanting to allow immigration from European countries but not from other [non-white] areas. Maybe saying he’s just a “hair shy” is an exageration, but his overall political philosophy has a lot of overlap with standard WN thinking.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/46 "2004-05-17T16:40:23Z")

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> [@Otters We Love](#):
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> Buchanan a racist?  
> Then why was his running mate a black woman?

Same reason any politician does most anything. And it **ain’t** out of their commitment to ideals; they do things out of _expediency._

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2004, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/47 "2004-05-17T17:31:02Z")

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> [@Otters We Love](#):
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> Buchanan a racist?  
> Then why was his running mate a black woman?

Lenora Fulani? She was not only black, she was a Marxist. I repeat: **Strange bedfellows.**

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**Author:** ![sleeping](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@sleeping](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeping)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-buchanon-wow/245343/48 "2004-05-18T22:19:55Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Lenora Fulani? She was not only black, she was a Marxist. I repeat: **Strange bedfellows.**

Heh. Interestingly enough, you’ve got the wrong black woman. [Lenora Fulani](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenora_Fulani) supported Buchanan in the 2000 election, but [Ezola Foster](http://www.ezolafoster.com/) was his running mate.

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> During the 2000 election, Fulani shocked many when she endorsed Pat Buchanan, then running on the Reform Party ticket. Some papers incorrectly reported that Fulani was Buchanan’s running mate, but this position actually belonged to Ezola Foster. Fulani did however serve for a time as a campaign advisor. This was seen as a strange meeting of two ends of the political spectrum who had very little in common, though both candidates had previously been accused of anti-semitism. However, both Buchanan and Fulani related in populist language that they represented marginalized groups who were fed-up with the two-party system. Fulani later withrdrew her endorsement of the Buchanan campaign on the grounds that it had “hijacked” the Reform movement in order to further Buchanan’s own right wing agenda. Foster responded to this claiming that Fulani was quite clear on Pat’s objectives both before and while she worked with him.

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