# Pat Robertson, Military Advisor :eek: **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 17, 2001, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244 "2001-09-17T20:30:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kiffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d78d45/32.png) [@kiffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiffa)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2001, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244/1 "2001-09-17T20:30:42Z")
Fliping thru the tv channels and I can across Pat Robertson showing his 700 Club viewers a. Where Afghanistan is located b. Neighboring countries which all support Afghanistan c. Where there is a flat area in Afgh. so American troops can land somewhere in this country “so far, far away” d. Why the Russians wanted to control Afgh. [because they need a deep ocean seaport as he points to the middle of India. :rolleyes: I hope that Bush disowned this idiot with his earlier comments that concluded Americans brought on the WTC/Pentagon tradegy themselves via minorities, feminists, abortionist, gays, the ACLU and … ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244/2 "2001-09-18T04:57:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by kiffa \* > \*\*d. Why the Russians wanted to control Afgh. [because they need a deep ocean seaport as he points to the middle of India. :rolleyes: > > \*\* Why does it not suprise me that Pat Robertson thinks a land locked country would be a good place to put a deep water port? :rolleyes: Nothing else he says makes any sense. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244/3 "2001-09-18T15:13:21Z")
I see in today’s news that they have both officially apologized. [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0109180336sep18.story](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0109180336sep18.story) > [@](#): > > Falwell apologizes for linking liberals to attack > > Associated Press > Published September 18, 2001 > > RICHMOND, Va. – Rev. Jerry Falwell apologized Monday for saying God had allowed terrorists to attack America because of the work of civil liberties groups, abortion rights supporters and feminists. > > Falwell said his comments were ill-timed, insensitive and divisive at a time of national mourning. > > “In the midst of the shock and mourning of a dark week for America, I made a statement that I should not have made and which I sincerely regret,” Falwell said. He added: “I want to apologize to every American, including those I named.” > > Falwell said later that no one from the evangelical community or the White House pressured him to apologize. > > However, he said a White House representative called him Friday while he was driving to the National Cathedral memorial service in Washington and told him the president disapproved. > > Falwell made his apology minutes after Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network released its own statement calling Falwell’s on-air remarks “severe and harsh in tone and, frankly, not fully understood” by Robertson and his two co-hosts. Yeah, right, Pat, we believe you, you didn’t “fully understand” what Jerry was talking about. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244/4 "2001-09-18T15:54:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > \*\*Yeah, right, Pat, we believe you, you didn’t “fully understand” what Jerry was talking about. :rolleyes: \*\* **DDG** , I’m shocked and appalled at your unkindness. I firmly believe that Pat didn’t “fully understand” what Jerry was talking about. Pat doesn’t “fully understand” how walk erect, or tie his shoelaces. I’m not surprised that the nuances of international politics and terrorism are beyond him. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_Babe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3ab097/32.png) [@Abe\_Babe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_Babe)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244/5 "2001-09-18T16:24:45Z")
Maybe we could put the two of them in charge of the first wave of troops in the amphibious invasion force, send their boats off and let them try to find those “deep ocean seaports.” That should keep them busy for a while. Wait. What’s this on the ground? It looks like the plug stopper for an amphibious landing craft. Darn. ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2001, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-military-advisor-eek/82244/6 "2001-09-18T16:40:34Z")
OK, let’s talk about Russia’s invasion. Going back to the 1800s, Russia and Britain engaged in a long drawn out cold war over India and central asia. The Russians attempted to expand their colonial empire south at the expense of the British, while the British attempted to expand to the north. The Central Asian colonies that Russia got were pretty much useless deserts, but they did have a goal in mind…to reach the Indian Ocean. If Russia could work down to the Indian Ocean, and establish a railway back up to Moscow, it would have greatly increased Russia’s ability to trade and project power around the world. Just like the establishment of Vladivostok and the trans-siberian railway allowed Russia to project power into the Pacific. The United State’s “manifest destiny” of expansion across the west to the Pacific Ocean stems from similar impulses. Rudyard Kipling’s classic book “Kim” depicts a young boy’s involvement in the “Great Game” of colonial struggles between Russia and Britain. So, it is not entirely crazy to believe that part of the reason the Soviets invaded Afghanistan was to continue the colonial expansion of the Czars. After all, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Taijikistan, Kyrgizistan and Turkmenistan were allready part of the Soviet Union. Adding Afghanistan to the list wouldn’t seem like such a stretch. And then they would only have to take over Pakistan and they would finally have their long-coveted dream of a link to the Indian Ocean. Now, I don’t know if the Soviet politburo actually sat down and decided that Afghanistan was the first step to the Indian Ocean. But central asian expansionism has a long history in Russia, so perhaps it was seen as a possibility.