# Pat Robertson Pit Thread Number 342: "Dover, Watch Your Bloomin' Arse!" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 10, 2005, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474 "2005-11-10T21:30:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/41 "2005-11-11T05:38:26Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > “The rain falleth upon the just and the unjust.” (Job: something or other) The rain it falleth on the just and also on the unjust fella. But chiefly on the just because the unjust steals the just’s umbrella. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/42 "2005-11-11T05:38:46Z")
Why do people still care about Pat Roberston? Why don’t you guys just ignore him? ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/43 "2005-11-11T06:28:47Z")
That Pat isn’t a crispy piece of fried fundy is one of the best evidences yet against the existence of a merciful god. I guess he likes democracy except when he loses. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/44 "2005-11-11T06:49:54Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > That Pat isn’t a crispy piece of fried fundy is one of the best evidences yet against the existence of a merciful god. I guess he likes democracy except when he loses. This is something that I find it hard to believe more people haven’t realized. The extreme right-wing fundamentalist Christians are inherently anti-democratic. In the end, there will be a King over all people and all this democratic rule-by-fallible-and-venal-humans will be over. They talk a good game about loving America and how Americans are the chosen people, but give any one of them a chance to be dictator and he’s suddenly got a 100-Point Plan for making the world a better place through Biblical practices interpreted by himself. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/45 "2005-11-11T06:56:06Z")
Down with Islamo-fascism! Up with Christiano-fascism! Progress is being made! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/46 "2005-11-11T08:31:21Z")
> [@Sublight](#): > > Just a factual question, but does Robertson’s ministry have tax-exempt status? The ministry itself, yes. He has gotten into trouble in the past for trying to shelter some of his business ventures (like The Family Channel) under his tax-exempt status and had to do some lengthy restructuring, and he was forbidden to use “.org” for the Pat Robertson web-site since he sells books on there that in part benefit him personally rather than just his non-profits. Robertson’s ministry isn’t the richest of the televangelical empires (that’s Jan and Paul Crouch, which is just unfathomable to me that people send them money) but he’s probably by far and away the richest individual of the televangelists. His personal business interests span the globe, and he’s made some rather odd political pronouncements for a minister (e.g. support for China’s “one child” policy, support for Apartheid and for various African dictators, etc.) that, coincidentally, benefit his business interests (which include diamond mines in Africa [that he used his “Operation Blessing” planes to deliver supplies to] and factories and real estate in China). He is quite possibly the most evil and corrupt man in the history of American religion, and that’s saying something. I will never understand why he has any power base at all- I can just assume that most of his ardent supporters are too ignorant or gullible to know anything of his business dealings and long history of lunatic predictions or indictments. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/47 "2005-11-11T12:19:57Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Why do people still care about Pat Roberston? Why don’t you guys just ignore him? Because, unfortunately, he still has quite a bit more influence and clout in conservative America than he deserves. A lot of non-wacko conservatives like to act as though he’s just some irrelevant loony, and I’m sure that many of them sincerely believe that or genuinely wish it were true. But there are still a lot of people watching his show and listening to what he says. From a recent [article on Robertson](http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200508250914.asp) by the decidedly non-liberal Byron York in the decidedly non-liberal _National Review_: > [@](#): > > To many on the right, Robertson’s most important role today seems to be as the maker of those crackpot comments, which give liberals the opportunity to hang the offending words — and Robertson himself — around conservatives’ necks. > > There is some truth to that, but there is also some evidence to suggest that Robertson is not quite as marginalized a figure as conservatives would like to believe. His main forum, the television program The 700 Club, is available in nearly all of the country on the ABC Family Channel, FamilyNet, the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and some broadcast stations. According to Nielsen Media Research, The 700 Club, aired each weekday, has averaged 863,000 viewers in the last year. While that is not enough to call it a popular program, it is still a significant audience. It is, for example, more than the average primetime audience for CNN last month — 713,000 viewers — or MSNBC, which averaged 280,000 viewers in prime time. It is also greater than the viewership of CNBC and Headline News. And as for Robertson’s charity organization Operation Blessing, it used to be prominently featured on FEMA’s website [as a recipient of post-Katrina relief contributions](http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/343813p-293471c.html): > [@](#): > > All last week [as of 6 September], FEMA bureaucrats gave prominent placement on the agency’s Web site to Operation Blessing, the Virginia-based charity run by controversial right-wing evangelist and Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson. > > For anyone wishing to donate only cash, the agency’s site listed the names and phone numbers of three groups: the Red Cross, Operation Blessing and America’s Second Harvest, a national coalition of food banks. […] > > Those who know Robertson’s record raised such an uproar that on Sunday FEMA suddenly rearranged its entire Web site for hurricane donations. Robertson and the American conservative establishment have a weird sort of relationship: one the one hand, many mainstream conservatives tut-tut about his wacko pronouncements and complain that liberals focus on him too much. On the other hand, they don’t disdain the support they get from his more than three-quarters of a million _700 Club_ viewers, nor do they always deny Robertson face time. (President Bush himself personally met with Robertson as recently as 2003.) Conservatives who complain that Democrats and liberals don’t do enough to distance themselves from radicals and loonies like A.N.S.W.E.R. or Al Sharpton need to take a good hard look at their own relationship with Pat Robertson. ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/48 "2005-11-11T12:48:02Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Why do people still care about Pat Roberston? Why don’t you guys just ignore him? ssshhhh we’re not allowed to talk about who we have on our ‘ignore’ list. ---
**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/49 "2005-11-11T13:15:09Z")
> [@furt](#): > > I’m generally “anti-” when it comes to suicide bombing. But I sometimes seriously think that killing certain people might indeed make my own life well-spent. A gut shot is best for prolonged suffering. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/50 "2005-11-11T14:09:44Z")
I’d like to see the George Burns God wail on PR’s sorry ass at the Pearly Gates. GBG: It’s O.K., Pete, I’ll handle this one… You, sir, were an abomination and a black mark on my good name. Your petty hatred and naked ambition have nothing to do with Christ’s teachings, and you know it. You are not welcome here. Go to Hell! ::flush:: ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/51 "2005-11-11T14:28:35Z")
I would very much want to see CNN send a reporter to the Lighthouse Baptist Church in Dover, Pennsylvania,(717) 292-5000, to ask the congregants what they think of Pat Robertson’s comments and whether they will continue to pray seeing as they no longer have the right to pray. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/52 "2005-11-11T14:32:06Z")
> [@](#): > > A gut shot is best for prolonged suffering. Folks? Let’s not take this thread too much further in this direction. OK? ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/53 "2005-11-11T14:44:43Z")
> [@Annie](#): > > Pat’s positively lunar in the regularity of his wacka-wacka pronouncements. > > So much so, I suggest a new sub-pit forum: **The FAP Pit** > > To isolate the Pittings of the Wacka-Wacka-but-why-are-they-still-public-figures? scratchings and mutterings of: > > **F** red Phelps > **A** nn Coulter > **P** at Robertson > > …and leave the Pit to piss on mods, Bush and shitty driving. 😉 One small change **P** helps **A** nn Coulter **P** at Rovbertson Then we can call it the PAP Smear. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/54 "2005-11-11T14:51:29Z")
Dutchman, send CNN an e-mail. See what happens? ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/55 "2005-11-11T14:52:30Z")
Re: The FAP Pit (or PAP Smear) Don’t forget Jack Chick! ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/56 "2005-11-11T14:54:58Z")
I hope God has good aim. I don’t mind him taking vengence on those godless heathens in Dover. But I live just a few town away and I’d hate to be caught up in His wrath just because of them. ---
**Author:** ![5que](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/3bc359/32.png) [@5que](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5que)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/57 "2005-11-11T15:38:04Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Pat, baby, GOD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL LUCA BRAZI! God sleeps with the fishes? ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/58 "2005-11-11T16:21:40Z")
Pat Robertson’s god is a big, petulant, childish bully. It’s the view of god that I was raised with. If there is a god, he ain’t like that. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/59 "2005-11-11T16:28:21Z")
> [@treis](#): > > Why don’t you guys just ignore him? The board’s devoted to fighting ignorance. And sometimes we get lazy and go for the low-hanging fruit. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2005, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474/60 "2005-11-11T16:30:36Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > (God’s vengeance for being queer). God is queer? Huh. I guess that explains our fabulous universe. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pit-thread-number-342-dover-watch-your-bloomin-arse/330474.md?page=4)