# Pat Robertson pwned! Israel hands ass to Fundie dipshit. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534 "2006-01-11T19:29:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Noone\_Special](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/noone_special/32/2863_2.png) [@Noone\_Special](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Noone_Special)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/41 "2006-01-12T14:02:34Z")
Wow, our gov’t did the right thing for once! See, Ole’ Pat can still work miracles… :dubious: > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > How senile is this guy, that he thinks a theme park in Israel would be a money maker? And not a target for suicide bombers? :rolleyes: Thank you for taking an uncalled-for **and inaccurate** pot-shot at us… Off the top of my head, I can think of at least two amusment parks and more water-parks than I can count on my fingers operating here. All (to the best of my knowledge) making money, thankyouverymuch. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/42 "2006-01-12T14:25:19Z")
What would we say of a foreigner who intended on investing a lot of money in the United States being turned away because he said something negative about Bush? I dislike Robertson as much as the next guy, assuming the next guy doesn’t actually like the 700 Club, and I feel a bit dirty for even coming close to defending him. Gotta go shower now. Adios. Marc ---
**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/43 "2006-01-12T14:50:04Z")
I want to go on the Noah’s Ark rides. I want to go to The Holy Land Experience in Orlando, cause, well, you just know it’d be weird. However, I will first have to be brave enough to crawl out from under my bed where I’m going to hide after finding out about Precious Moments Park. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/44 "2006-01-12T15:33:06Z")
> [@Noone Special](#): > > Off the top of my head, I can think of at least two amusment parks and more water-parks than I can count on my fingers operating here. All (to the best of my knowledge) making money, thankyouverymuch. No doubt. But somehow I think the fundie-Christian theme park Robertson conceived would depend for success on **foreign tourists.** (There being few fundie Christians in Israel itself.) Of which many do go to Israel on “Bible Lands” tours – my grandmother did, once – but I can’t imagine they would ever go in the Disney-scale numbers that would be needed to make such a park profitable. Plus, there’s the suicide bombers. The more famous the park becomes, the more high-value a target. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/45 "2006-01-12T15:36:45Z")
> [@swampbear](#): > > I want to go on the Noah’s Ark rides. I want to go to The Holy Land Experience in Orlando, cause, well, you just know it’d be weird. However, I will first have to be brave enough to crawl out from under my bed where I’m going to hide after finding out about Precious Moments Park. :eek: Kind of makes me wish I wasn’t [married already](http://www.preciousmoments.com/park/attractions/wedding_island/). ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/46 "2006-01-12T15:57:42Z")
Now that the repercussions involve money and not just negative publicity, old Pat may be having a change of heart. > **[The Times & The Sunday Times](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/)** > > News and opinion from The Times & The Sunday Times > [@](#): > > Pat Robertson, the American televangelist, today appeared to withdraw a diatribe against Ariel Sharon in an attempt to salvage his $50 million plan for a biblical theme park in Galilee. Apparently, the word of God can be drowned out by the mere jingle of a coin. At least in Pat’s ears. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/47 "2006-01-12T16:06:58Z")
> [@jjimm](#): > > Kind of makes me wish I wasn’t [married already](http://www.preciousmoments.com/park/attractions/wedding_island/). Hey, why not do a renewal of vows? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/48 "2006-01-12T16:09:53Z")
> [@Sublight](#): > > Now that the repercussions involve money and not just negative publicity, old Pat may be having a change of heart. > > [The Times & The Sunday Times](http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,251-1980422,00.html) > Apparently, the word of God can be drowned out by the mere jingle of a coin. At least in Pat’s ears. Aw, shucks – so there won’t be any Jesusland fishwiches now? ☹ > [@](#): > > There were plans for food outlets at Tabgha on the shore of the Sea of Galilee, the scene of the feeding of the 5,000. ---
**Author:** ![gooftroopag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gooftroopag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooftroopag)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/49 "2006-01-12T17:29:44Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No doubt. But somehow I think the fundie-Christian theme park Robertson conceived would depend for success on **foreign tourists.** (There being few fundie Christians in Israel itself.) If it is anything like [The Holy Land Experience](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4678897.stm) in Florida, which was originally lead by [Zion’s Hope](http://www.zionshope.org/about/index.htm), it would be their intent to convert Jews. ---
**Author:** ![gooftroopag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gooftroopag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gooftroopag)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/50 "2006-01-12T17:42:05Z")
> [@swampbear](#): > > I want to go to The Holy Land Experience in Orlando, cause, well, you just know it’d be weird. I’d be too scared. Could you imagine the type of people that work there? That alone makes me fearful enough to stay away and find another use for my $30; not to mention the [dress code and a behavior policy](http://www.theholylandexperience.com/faqs2.html). ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/51 "2006-01-12T20:32:29Z")
> [@CapnPitt](#): > > We have one in Pittsburgh!!! It’s an old classic, but a goody. [linky](http://www.laffinthedark.com/articles/noahsark/noahkw.htm) Yeah, but does it really count as a “ride”? Since it’s more of a walk-thru. (I always liked the tunnel bridge in the little round tube thingy, where it feels like the bridge is going to turn on its side. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/52 "2006-01-12T20:59:17Z")
I have to say I’d love to go to a full on Christian theme park with rides. I’d probably be thrown out at some stage but that would be all part of the fun. I speak as someone who was removed from the [Von Trapp Lodge](http://www.trappfamily.com/) with 15 other drunken Irish idiots after loudly breaking into the greatest hits from the Sound of Music during the 2nd course while having dinner. It was one of the funniest experiences of my life. We did the So Long, Farewell thing while some of us were being almost carried out the door. Ahhh good times. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/53 "2006-01-12T21:22:05Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > I speak as someone who was removed from the [Von Trapp Lodge](http://www.trappfamily.com/) with 15 other drunken Irish idiots after loudly breaking into the greatest hits from the Sound of Music during the 2nd course while having dinner. It was one of the funniest experiences of my life. We did the So Long, Farewell thing while some of us were being almost carried out the door. Ahhh good times. You’ve so been prayed into hell in German (the devil’s favorite language) that you might as well start packing. 😛 My understanding is that the von Trapps particularly dislike the movie because they get absolutely no money from it. Maria sold the exclusive rights to their story to a German film company for the equivalent of maybe a five figure sum in today’s money back in the 1950s, and the German film company sold them to Rodgers & Hammerstein who sold them to the movies, so while Rodgers and Hammerstein and Julie Andrews and Fox all made millions from the show and its soundtracks and merchandising of all kinds, the family got a few bones the producers threw them (consulting and advising fees, etc.) and name recognition that probably helped their lodge but didn’t make them rich. Of course the movie and play have so little to do with the real story and the songs couldn’t be further from the Austrian ValHalla dirge-like hymns the real von Trapps sang, that it’s really only fair. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/54 "2006-01-12T21:36:09Z")
Sometime back in the '80s, Gahan Wilson did a comic for National Lampoon (I think) about what a Christian theme park would look like, in the form of a promotional brochure. The part that stands out in my mind was the section extolling their clean and spacious bathrooms. The accompanying illustration was of a park employee dressed as Pilate standing at the sink, right next to the “Employees must wash hands” sign. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/55 "2006-01-12T22:17:23Z")
> [@THespos](#): > > Think he’ll learn his lesson from this one? Or will he continue his verbal diarrhea while continuing to have the expectation that no one will retaliate? > > My sawbuck is on the latter. [Yep](http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,181474,00.html). > [@Pat Robertson in a letter to Omri Sharon](#): > > My zeal, my love of Israel, and my concern for the future safety of your nation led me to make remarks which I can now view in retrospect as inappropriate and insensitive in light of a national grief experience because of your father’s illness. > > I ask your forgiveness and the forgiveness of the people of Israel for saying what was clearly insensitive at the time. He’s not sorry about what he said, just when he said it. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/56 "2006-01-13T00:06:50Z")
I thought Israel already WAS a biblical theme park. Erek ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/57 "2006-01-13T00:11:08Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Sometime back in the '80s, Gahan Wilson did a comic for National Lampoon (I think) about what a Christian theme park would look like, in the form of a promotional brochure. The part that stands out in my mind was the section extolling their clean and spacious bathrooms. The accompanying illustration was of a park employee dressed as Pilate standing at the sink, right next to the “Employees must wash hands” sign. Haha, we were watching some late night christian show, and they were advertising their tour packages to, Israel, Greece, and the Holy Land Theme Park in Orlando Florida. Gotta love Commercialism for making a mockery of the Dogma. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/58 "2006-01-13T01:51:48Z")
> [@e-logic](#): > > Wot a total plank - you want to build a $100m theme park in Israel, then gloat when their President (ie. the Tourist Minister’s BOSS!) falls ill. He was not gloating. He was simply stating the facts. You can’t criticize someone for just telling the plain truth. Jews (indeed, everyone other than Christians of Robertson’s stripe) just need to face up to the fact that there is one true religion, and they ain’t in it. Until they are in it, they can’t expect to be in with the program. ---
**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/59 "2006-01-13T02:23:35Z")
I’m thinking that ol Pat hasn’t seen _Munich_ yet, or he’d know you **don’t** fuck with the Israeli’s. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2006, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534/60 "2006-01-13T09:10:42Z")
> [@MGibson](#): > > What would we say of a foreigner who intended on investing a lot of money in the United States being turned away because he said something negative about Bush? What if that investor said on a highly public stage that the September 11 attacks were Allah’s divine retribution against the United States for oppressing the souls of Muslims etc., and then wanted to build a Muslim World theme park in New York? What would you think? > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > No doubt. But somehow I think the fundie-Christian theme park Robertson conceived would depend for success on foreign tourists. For one million dollars: which industry already butters the rest of Israel’s bread (quite successfully)? > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > There being few fundie Christians in Israel itself.) Cite! > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Of which many do go to Israel on “Bible Lands” tours – my grandmother did, once – but I can’t imagine they would ever go in the Disney-scale numbers that would be needed to make such a park profitable. See the million dollar question. > [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Plus, there’s the suicide bombers. The more famous the park becomes, the more high-value a target. I can’t believe I’m even going to waste valuable seconds of finger mobility on this argument. How many tall buildings did you fly over the last time you flew from New York to L.A.? How many churches? How many synagogues? How many Jewish Community Centers? (Plenty, I assure you!) How many Jewish businesses? And how many of them have ever been bombed? Despite what the kind people at \ want you to believe/fear, being in Israel does not mean something is wide open to attack and people have to live every moment in fear. If they did, they wouldn’t live there. I don’t know how many times you’ve been to Israel, but I would bet some solid money that it’s somewhere close to zero. I have been there, been to a lot of the sites significant to Jewish history, and been part of a busload of obviously Jewish-American college students in a very Arabic (which, BTW, means Muslim _and_ Christian) part of Jerusalem, and the whole time felt a hell of a lot safer than I do visiting friends in some parts of this town. And a hell of a lot safer than when I was in DC (where I lived for almost eleven years) or New York. The standard line here in America in response to anything involving Israel is “Oh my god! You/they are going to get killed by one of them crazy Ay-rabs with them suicide-bombs strapped to their chest!” Turn off CNN/Fox News/whatever and get an education in real life, man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-pwned-israel-hands-ass-to-fundie-dipshit/339534.md?page=4)