# Pat Robertson.. the new Nostradamus

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 3, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526 "2007-01-03T13:10:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![clayton\_e](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c57346/32.png) [@clayton\_e](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clayton_e)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/1 "2007-01-03T13:10:17Z")

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[Link](http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/02/robertson.predictions.ap/index.html).

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> Evangelical broadcaster Pat Robertson said Tuesday that God has told him that a terrorist attack on the United States would cause a “mass killing” late in 2007.

Ok, if you say so.

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> In 2005, Robertson predicted that Bush would have victory after victory in his second term. He said Social Security reform proposals would be approved …

Hm.. God told you what?

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> In May, Robertson said God told him that storms and possibly a tsunami were to crash into America’s coastline in 2006.

_REALLY?!?!_

And the quote that sums it all up:

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> “ **I** have a relatively good track record,” he said. “Sometimes \*\*I \*\* miss.”

(bolding all mine)  
So, Pat.. God told you this? Or, if I look at that quote by you, sometimes **you** miss.

Let people have their religious beliefs. Don’t bring the crystal ball into it while you hold out a hat.

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**Author:** ![MovingTarget](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/edb3f5/32.png) [@MovingTarget](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovingTarget)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/2 "2007-01-03T13:19:13Z")

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yeah, my grandmother listens to this quackjob all the time. She’s always up in arms about the “end” being near. And he’s ALWAYS wrong. But he’s got a good escape. “God has decided to spare us, as we have prayed to him to make it so.” I’m totally suprised the commercials for his damn show aren’t selling several different varieties of snake oil.

I hate this man too much for words.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/3 "2007-01-03T13:41:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Snipe1978]  
yeah, my grandmother listens to this quackjob all the time.  
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Why? Why does anyone listen to that nutbar anymore? How stupid can people be?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/4 "2007-01-03T13:52:03Z")

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I wouldn’t pit Roberston for saying this, because this is what he is. Normally I can just ignore him.

On the other hand, I was very upset that my local “news channel” covered this as “news”.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/5 "2007-01-03T13:56:11Z")

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I’m worried that someday, a religious person (not necessarily this one) will make a “prophesy” about terrorism, & then hire mercenaries to see to it coming true.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/6 "2007-01-03T14:01:54Z")

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He should at least couch his prediction in Nostradamus-speak:

In the time before hister,  
Nay Pon Nor Lay will lay down before a great oxen  
Vast armies will nebble and knish  
When the man with two faces will find his elbow  
And lose a hole in the ground.

Yeah, says “tsunami” to me, too. 😛

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**Author:** ![Sean\_Factotum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/50afbb/32.png) [@Sean\_Factotum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sean_Factotum)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/7 "2007-01-03T14:22:00Z")

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The sun rose in the east this morning.  
Rain continued to be wet.  
Pat Robertson said something stupid after one of his retreats.

What’s the surprise again?

And **Shibb** , at least it wasn’t on the front page of your local newspaper this morning like it is in mine.

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**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/8 "2007-01-03T14:37:42Z")

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Pat who?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/9 "2007-01-03T14:40:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Snipe1978]  
yeah, my grandmother listens to this quackjob all the time. She’s always up in arms about the “end” being near.  
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She is in good company: [Poll: One in Four Says Jesus May Return in 2007](http://www.beliefnet.com/story/208/story_20828_1.html).

It is very discouraging to realize at least 25% of the population is willfully, irredeemably ignorant.

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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/10 "2007-01-03T14:53:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
She is in good company: [Poll: One in Four Says Jesus May Return in 2007](http://www.beliefnet.com/story/208/story_20828_1.html).

It is very discouraging to realize at least 25% of the population is willfully, irredeemably ignorant.  
[/QUOTE]  
Well, in all fairness the wording does say “may”. As in “Monkeys _may_ fly out of my ass in 2007”. Hey, it’s possible!

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/11 "2007-01-03T14:54:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Snipe1978]  
yeah, my grandmother listens to this quackjob all the time. She’s always up in arms about the “end” being near. And he’s ALWAYS wrong. But he’s got a good escape. “God has decided to spare us, as we have prayed to him to make it so.” I’m totally suprised the commercials for his damn show aren’t selling several different varieties of snake oil.

I hate this man too much for words.  
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Can you imagine what will happen when the world actually DOES end?

Pat Robinson: I thought you were praying for gawd to spare us!  
Jerry Falwell: I thought **you** were praying for gawd to spare us!

(wah wah waaaahaahahaa)

-Joe

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**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/12 "2007-01-03T14:55:28Z")

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Ah, yes, people who adhere to tenants of mainstream Christiananity (note that it says “may”, which merely implies a nonzero chance, as specified in the Bible itself) are “willfully ignorant.” I’m glad our freethinking, open-minded, non-discriminitory friend here was able to clear that up.

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**Author:** ![Mellivora\_capensis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mellivora\_capensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mellivora_capensis)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/13 "2007-01-03T14:58:54Z")

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Christ, what is it with google ads these days?

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**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/14 "2007-01-03T15:03:54Z")

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[QUOTE=athelas]  
Ah, yes, people who adhere to tenants of mainstream Christiananity (note that it says “may”, which merely implies a nonzero chance, as specified in the Bible itself) are “willfully ignorant.” I’m glad our freethinking, open-minded, non-discriminitory friend here was able to clear that up.  
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If you look at the actual article, the “may” is a combination of “very likely” (11%) and “somewhat likely” (14%). So, people are saying that there is a good possibility, not just a non-zero chance.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/15 "2007-01-03T15:06:26Z")

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[QUOTE=athelas]  
Ah, yes, people who adhere to tenants of mainstream Christiananity (note that it says “may”, which merely implies a nonzero chance, as specified in the Bible itself) are “willfully ignorant.” I’m glad our freethinking, open-minded, non-discriminitory friend here was able to clear that up.  
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If you bothered to read the article itself, you would know that the poll used the terms “very likely” and “somewhat likely” which is vastly different from the bible, which says Jesus will come like thief in the night, and no one can foretell his coming. Anyone who says it is likely that Jesus will return next year is not only ignorant, but a lousy Christian as well.

I pride myself on discriminating between ignorance and reason; it is a quality to aspire to.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/16 "2007-01-03T15:11:57Z")

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I don’t get it; to an “evangelist” (as Robertson is supposed to be; a bearer of good news), the destruction of the world is a GOOD thing, because it ushers in the Millenium. So why isn’t this news received positively? Or, maybe, it is the Devil 9tempting us). In any case, why should God make his intentions known to an ass like Robertson? Or maybe god is playing a joke on us?

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**Author:** ![Wallenstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5a626/32.png) [@Wallenstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wallenstein)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/17 "2007-01-03T15:25:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
Jesus will come like thief in the night, and no one can foretell his coming. Anyone who says it is likely that Jesus will return next year is not only ignorant, but a lousy Christian as well..  
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pssst… I’m already here 😉

(don’t tell Pat though…)

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/18 "2007-01-03T16:07:14Z")

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Pat’s no Nostradamus. Nostradamus had the good sense to write vague, although shitty, poetry. Robertson makes dead-wrong predictions and sells protein shakes. He doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in such lofty company. He’s more akin to The Weekly World News.

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**Author:** ![JeffB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeffb/32/188_2.png) [@JeffB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JeffB)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/19 "2007-01-03T16:10:38Z")

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Yeah, but could Nostradamus leg press 2,000 pounds?

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**Post date:** [January 3, 2007, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson-the-new-nostradamus/386526/20 "2007-01-03T16:30:03Z")

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[QUOTE=e-logic]

[Quote=Fear Itself]  
Jesus will come like thief in the night, and no one can foretell his coming. Anyone who says it is likely that Jesus will return next year is not only ignorant, but a lousy Christian as well..  
[/Quote]  
pssst… I’m already here 😉

(don’t tell Pat though…)  
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Say… where’s my wallet?

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