# Pat Robertson

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 28, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086 "2011-06-28T01:26:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/1 "2011-06-28T01:26:14Z")

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Pat Robertson, I mean really what else is there to say?

Doesn’t grandpa have minders to keep him from wandering in front of the TV cameras? Is he refusing his medication? [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnPYfpp4gI) he is claiming God will destroy America because of gay marriage.

(I suppose God started with the Alabama tornadoes, but I digress.)

Silly little draft-dodging, born-rich bigot. He has squandered his father’s (and I suppose his Father’s) name building an empire rooted in fear and fed with money from every scared grandma in the country. I tell you, some people just give Christianity a bad name.

Oh [don’t miss](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBI7unR82tc) Tim Pawlenty’s interview with Robertson!

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/2 "2011-06-28T01:36:27Z")

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I wont disagree that Robertson is a prick, but a draft dodger? Wikipedia says he served in the Marine Corps, in Korea. Apparently he was given the choice of the Marines or the Army. Pete McCloskey has contested that Robertson served in combat, but there seems to be no denying that he did serve.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/3 "2011-06-28T01:40:09Z")

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His dad (the senator) got him a cushy job. He ran the distribution of liquor to the officer and EM clubs in the region. He let someone else take his bullets for him, hence a draft-dodger (at least in my odd formulation of the term).

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/4 "2011-06-28T01:40:50Z")

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Ever notice that Robertson looks like he’s constipated while he’s praying?

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**Author:** ![Karen\_Lingel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karen_lingel/32/18649_2.png) [@Karen\_Lingel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Karen_Lingel)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/5 "2011-06-28T01:50:34Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> Here he is claiming God will destroy America because of gay marriage.

This kind of argument always strikes me as odd. Are gay people supposed to be convinced to be not gay? What would be the point? God is smiting the gay and non-gay alike! This kind of thing just makes me think God is a huge asshole.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/6 "2011-06-28T02:05:20Z")

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[Pat “Liquor officer” Robertson](http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm)

A pretty devastating piece on Robertson, and not just because it exposes that he used his dad to get him out of combat (and bragged about it at the time). It just makes him look like a douchebag in general, from the way he tried to sue fellow Marines for libel after they told the truth about him (all backed up with documentation, including personal letters from his father asking CO’s to keep his son out of combat), and his sexual harassment of a teenaged Korean girl who served the officers as a housekeeper.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/7 "2011-06-28T02:12:17Z")

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> [@Karen\_Lingel](#):
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> This kind of argument always strikes me as odd. Are gay people supposed to be convinced to be not gay?

No, “godly” people are supposed to be convinced to use any method possible to suppress homosexuality, whether legislative, social or physical.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/8 "2011-06-28T02:50:29Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnPYfpp4gI) he is claiming God will destroy America because of gay marriage.
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> (I suppose God started with the Alabama tornadoes, but I digress.)

So, I guess God doesn’t understand state-level poliitics. How come He’s sending tornadoes to Alabama and Missouri, and floods to North Dakota, if the New York legislature is voting on gay marriage? What’s the point?

Also, when can we expect to see some lordly smiting of Argentina, Belgium, Brazil, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, and most of all, that modern-day Gomorrah Canada? I’ll spot Him Iceland 'cause of all the recent volcanic eruptions, but He’s really farming it out on the rest.

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/9 "2011-06-28T02:58:33Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> [Pat “Liquor officer” Robertson](http://www.schlatter.org/liquor_officer.htm)
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> A pretty devastating piece on Robertson, and not just because it exposes that he used his dad to get him out of combat (and bragged about it at the time). It just makes him look like a douchebag in general, from the way he tried to sue fellow Marines for libel after they told the truth about him (all backed up with documentation, including personal letters from his father asking CO’s to keep his son out of combat), and his sexual harassment of a teenaged Korean girl who served the officers as a housekeeper.

Not to argue with the rest of it, but if you could get your child out of risking their life, would you?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/10 "2011-06-28T02:59:47Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> Doesn’t grandpa have minders to keep him from wandering in front of the TV cameras? Is he refusing his medication? [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZnPYfpp4gI) he is claiming God will destroy America because of gay marriage.

But countries that practice ‘honor’ killings and female circumcision get a free pass.

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**Author:** ![Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Swords\_to\_Plowshares](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swords_to_Plowshares)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/11 "2011-06-28T03:01:27Z")

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Robertson owns diamond mines in Liberia, and used planes owned by a charity he ran to haul supplies there while he told The 700 Club that the planes were being used for a relief effort. He supported the terrorist-harboring former Liberian president Charles Taylor too. What a fucking scumbag. He cares for nothing but being rich and powerful.

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/12 "2011-06-28T03:39:17Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> Not to argue with the rest of it, but if you could get your child out of risking their life, would you?

Of course. I don’t really have a problem with that. The problem is with him lying about being in combat.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/13 "2011-06-28T03:58:29Z")

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> [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](#):
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> His dad (the senator) got him a cushy job. He ran the distribution of liquor to the officer and EM clubs in the region. He let someone else take his bullets for him, hence a draft-dodger (at least in my odd formulation of the term).

Are we sure that’s true?

My understanding is that that’s based almost entirely on the claims of Pete McCloskey who’s not exactly the most reliable of sources.

This is the same guy who’s referred claimed “Earlier here today I listened to speeches about the courage of men in France, Britain, Germany, and New Zealand who have spoken out against the commonly accepted concept of what occurred during the Second World War in\*\* the so-called Holocaus\*\*t” while giving a speech before the Institute for Historical Research, a group well-known for being Holocaust deniers.

He’s a guy who seems to have an aversion for the truth.

That said, Pat Robertson is a class A scumbag.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/14 "2011-06-28T03:58:46Z")

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I figured out the problem with Pat Robertson when I was a fundie, when I noticed what he sold out on his network. If I’d have known about this stuff, I’d have been able to influence a lot more people.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/15 "2011-06-28T04:00:24Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> But countries that practice ‘honor’ killings and female circumcision get a free pass.

Er, on what planet do you live on where those countries are give a pass?

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/16 "2011-06-28T04:00:51Z")

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Dear God,

Please save us from Pat Robertson.  
He has been an affliction upon the Earth long enough.  
Remove him from our presence.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/17 "2011-06-28T04:13:01Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> How come He’s sending tornadoes to Alabama and Missouri, and floods to North Dakota, if the New York legislature is voting on gay marriage? What’s the point?

I won’t claim to have Robertson’s personal open line with God so I have to judge his wishes by his actions.

States with legalized gay marriage: Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont, plus Washington, D.C. Tornadoes and hurricanes in these states: zero.

States that get hit by tornadoes and hurricanes: Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas. States on this list with legal gay marriage: zero.

So, like I said, judging God’s wishes by his actions, I think God’s message is pretty clear. Legalize gay marriage or face God’s wrath.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/18 "2011-06-28T04:30:42Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Er, on what planet do you live on where those countries are give a pass?

If you argue that God is inflicting natural disasters on Muslim countries to punish them for honor killings and so forth, I’ll take your word for it.

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**Author:** ![fluiddruid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fluiddruid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fluiddruid)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/19 "2011-06-28T04:49:08Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> States with legalized gay marriage: Connecticut, **Iowa** , Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont, plus Washington, D.C. Tornadoes and hurricanes in these states: zero.

You might want to doublecheck this statement. 🙂

That said, Pat Robertson is obviously a grade-A tool.

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pat-robertson/587086/20 "2011-06-28T05:02:13Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> If you argue that God is inflicting natural disasters on Muslim countries to punish them for honor killings and so forth, I’ll take your word for it.

Huh?

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