# Patrick Kane Rape Allegation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 6, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195 "2015-08-06T22:00:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/21 "2015-08-07T04:04:41Z")

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I’m unfamiliar with the OP. I know all about hockey and rape though. I trust a thorough investigation will occur and if charges are laid I also expect a fair trial.

If he’s found guilty then I expect whatever penalty is normally given for rape in New York state.

I don’t think that’s too difficult to understand.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/22 "2015-08-07T04:14:52Z")

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Patrick Kane is of the Ben Roethlisberger model, so I could totally believe it.

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**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/23 "2015-08-07T04:14:55Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Aw, man, that’s BULLSHIT! I gotta do all my rapin’ in the off season? I’m calling my union rep.

Not just in the offseason, but early enough in the offseason that it won’t affect training camp. Gotta have your priorities straight, you understand.

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/24 "2015-08-07T23:11:13Z")

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This has to be some bizarre form of performance art by the OP at this point, no?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/25 "2015-08-07T23:16:10Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’m unfamiliar with the OP. I know all about hockey and rape though.

I don’t know all about hockey and rape. Is hockey particularly associated with rape?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/26 "2015-08-07T23:30:12Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’m unfamiliar with the OP. I know all about hockey and rape though.

Of the two subjects, I think you made the right call about which one to reference in your screen name.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 5:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/27 "2015-08-08T05:44:57Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’m unfamiliar with the OP. I know all about hockey and rape though.

HEDLEY LAMARR: Qualifications?  
KANE: Rape, hockey, and rape.  
HEDLEY LEMARR: You said rape twice.  
KANE: I like rape.

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**Author:** ![russian\_heel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f05b48/32.png) [@russian\_heel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/russian_heel)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/28 "2015-08-08T07:47:24Z")

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pssssst . . .check out the OP’s location city in his profile. 🆒

Just a butt-hurt homer fan. God forbid a sexual assault get in the way of a fourth Stanley Cup for his boys.

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**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/29 "2015-08-08T09:17:18Z")

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Okay…I know I’ve whinged about this in the past, and I know that FOR THE MOST PART this is a US-centric board, but there’s plenty of us who DON’T live in the US and have no idea who or what the fuck you are talking about!

It would be sweet if you could give a brief synopsis of the case when you post your OP…really, it’s not a big ask.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Sr\_Siete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6de8d8/32.png) [@Sr\_Siete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sr_Siete)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/30 "2015-08-08T10:20:17Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Okay…I know I’ve whinged about this in the past, and I know that FOR THE MOST PART this is a US-centric board, but there’s plenty of us who DON’T live in the US and have no idea who or what the fuck you are talking about!
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> It would be sweet if you could give a brief synopsis of the case when you post your OP…really, it’s not a big ask.
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> :rolleyes:

To be fair, it’s like a five second google search. I mean, it’s nice when an OP provides information for the clueless foreigners like us, but, really, not such a big deal.

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**Author:** ![climbuponahilltop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c0e974/32.png) [@climbuponahilltop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/climbuponahilltop)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/31 "2015-08-08T11:03:09Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Patrick Kane’s 84 million dollar contract goes into effect this year. Now, he’s being investigated for supposedly raping a woman he met at the bar While Kane’s has had a couple of off-ice alcohol related incidents, this is a much more serious charge if there’s any truth to it.
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> To me, it stinks of gold digging. Kane’s name slipped out of the police report , but not the name of the woman. Coincidence? I think not.
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> Kane will have to pay this woman off. He hadn’t been skewered too badly in the Chicago media so far. Hopefully this won’t drag into training camp and prove to be a distraction to the Blackhawks.
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> [NHL Hockey: News, Videos, Stats, Highlights, Results & More - NBC Sports - NBC Sports](http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2015/08/06/report-patrick-kane-the-subject-of-a-police-investigation/)

Kane plead guilty to beating up a cab driver. More than what I’d call an off-ice alcohol related incident.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/32 "2015-08-08T11:29:55Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Okay…I know I’ve whinged about this in the past, and I know that FOR THE MOST PART this is a US-centric board, but there’s plenty of us who DON’T live in the US and have no idea who or what the fuck you are talking about!
> 
> It would be sweet if you could give a brief synopsis of the case when you post your OP…really, it’s not a big ask.
> 
> :rolleyes:

There are plenty of us in the US who do not follow sports in general, hockey specifically, or entertainment news, even the portion focused on accusation of illegal behavior.

I do not immediately understand all the thread titles. I either ignore them or open the thread to find the link to the relevant news story.

It’s clear from the first sentence that an athlete, probably very good at his job, has been accused of rape. Further reading indicates that he is supposed to start his first season with the Chicago hockey team.

Okay, I don’t care, but it’s the Pit, so I scan of few posts to see if an entertaining argument will break out … and this could turn into a pitting of the Original Poster, so I might follow it. But I’m not upset that the thread is not about some minor politician in the US (or Canada, Australia, or GB).

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/33 "2015-08-08T13:34:37Z")

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> [@kambuckta](#):
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> Okay…I know I’ve whinged about this in the past, and I know that FOR THE MOST PART this is a US-centric board, but there’s plenty of us who DON’T live in the US and have no idea who or what the fuck you are talking about!

It wasn’t a US-centric OP. Any true Canadian would know instantly what this is all about.

> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> Is hockey particularly associated with rape?

No, [mumps](http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/33596/tracking-down-where-the-nhl-mumps-outbreak-started).

Come to think of it, if wide-ranging mumps outbreaks return to hockey this year, it could go a long way towards solving the (alleged) rape problem. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/34 "2015-08-08T14:02:25Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> There are plenty of us in the US who do not follow sports in general, hockey specifically, or entertainment news, even the portion focused on accusation of illegal behavior.

Hurp Durp.

> [@](#):
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> Further reading indicates that he is supposed to start his first season with the Chicago hockey team.

The fuck?

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/35 "2015-08-08T14:31:18Z")

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> [@D\_Anconia](#):
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> Hurp Durp.
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> The fuck?

What?

Okay, I googled Kane, he seems to have been with the Black Hawks for nearly a decade, so this must be the first year of a new contract?

This is my point - this is not an example of US-centrism, but an example of not everyone on the board having the same interests, but still getting enough out of the OP to understand the general point of the thread.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/36 "2015-08-08T14:39:45Z")

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Let’s ignore the history of the op for a second.

And let us assume that a rape test kit documents Kane’s sperm in the alleged victim’s vagina.

Further let us assume that the alleged victim says she was raped and that Kane claims that sex was consensual and perhaps even that the woman had approached him before this leaked with threats of going through with a rape charge unless he paid her X amount of money. (The so-called “golddigger” charge.) His story is that he has refused and that this “leak” is her following through.

Honestly both are believable.

Assuming that, what likely happens from here? How is your take on likely reality different from what you think _should_ happen?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/37 "2015-08-08T14:52:09Z")

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> [@russian\_heel](#):
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> pssssst . . .check out the OP’s location city in his profile. 🆒
> 
> Just a butt-hurt homer fan. God forbid a sexual assault get in the way of a fourth Stanley Cup for his boys.

I’m in the same city as the OP and a Blackhawks fan. I would love to see our boys get a fourth Stanley Cup.

BUT, if young Mr. Kane turns out to have committed a sexual assault I will be one of the first and loudest calling for his ass to get locked up and booted off the team. While fans can be prone to make excuses for athletes who get in trouble, the dumbassery in the OP in no way represents all Hawks fans.

I will note, the Chicago media is reporting [Kane is under investigation](http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/hockey/blackhawks/ct-patrick-kane-investigation-20150807-story.html) for “an incident” that occurred at his home. Though the implication is clear, the phrase “sexual assault” much less “rape” has been noticeably absent from the stories I’ve seen. It will be interesting to see how they cover this as the situation evolves.

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/38 "2015-08-08T14:56:34Z")

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> [@climbuponahilltop](#):
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> Kane plead guilty to beating up a cab driver. More than what I’d call an off-ice alcohol related incident.

Although he was indicted for assault, theft, and harassment, he pled down to a misdemeanor disorderly conduct as long as he could stay out of trouble for a year.

On the other hand, he allegedly punched and grabbed by the throat a cab driver and refused to pay him because he couldn’t get his 20 cents in change back. The cab ride was $14.80 and Kane wanted to give the driver $15 and get his change back.

Seems like a wonderful person.

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/39 "2015-08-08T15:29:57Z")

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**dalej42** does seem to have a certain viewpoint, doesn’t he? Not sure how his vision is, looking out from under that rather prominent brow.

Rape allegation? No big deal, probabaly a gold digging ho. Interfere with SPORTS!!!. Now that, that cannot stand.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/40 "2015-08-08T15:41:52Z")

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> [@j666](#):
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> What?
> 
> Okay, I googled Kane, he seems to have been with the Black Hawks for nearly a decade, so this must be the first year of a new contract?
> 
> This is my point - this is not an example of US-centrism, but an example of not everyone on the board having the same interests, but still getting enough out of the OP to understand the general point of the thread.

To be fair, this was originally posted in The Game Room so those seeing it would be more likely in the target audience. It was moved for obvious reasons.

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