# Patrick Kane Rape Allegation **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 6, 2015, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195 "2015-08-06T22:00:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/61 "2015-08-10T15:42:15Z")
> [@No\_umlaut\_for\_U](#): > > Once the alleged bites entered the picture, I firmly believe that it wasn’t. Bite marks!? _googles_ Holy shit. The article also says there’s some video evidence. Probably just outside, but if his surveillance equipment includes the inside, maybe it just won’t be a he said (“she said she liked biting!”) she said (“really? that’s what he’s going with?”) situation. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/62 "2015-08-10T16:18:34Z")
> **[Report: Accuser Claims Patrick Kane Overpowered And Raped Her](https://deadspin.com/report-accuser-claims-patrick-kane-overpowered-and-rap-1723073528)** > > Saturday was Patrick Kane’s scheduled day with the Stanley Cup. He had planned to bring it to Sky Bar, a downtown Buffalo rooftop club, to celebrate. Those plans changed when Kane became the subject of a rape investigation, accused by a woman he... Here’s a loaded article on the subject. Bite marks on the shoulder and a scratch on the left leg. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/63 "2015-08-10T16:50:37Z")
> [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](#): > > There has been all sorts of **fantastically** irresponsible reporting on this by the Buffalo News and the local television stations. > > [This article](http://www.buffalonews.com/feed/new-details-emerge-in-allegations-against-nhl-star-patrick-kane-20150809), which presents an “interview” with presumably **dale42** relative Mark Croce, pretty much says the alleged victim deserved it. You cannot watch a news broadcast here without some South Buffalo native [blowing smoke](http://wivb.com/2015/08/07/kane-case-shocks-south-buffalo/) about how he would never do such a thing. I’m all for due process - he is innocent until proven guilty - but this biased reporting is pure bullshit. In the article quoted by Bruce above Croce later admitted he really doesn’t know if the woman he saw following Kane is the same one who reported the incident. He is the bar owner. He’s trying to cover his ass. And he probably has a personal relationship with Kane since he is a regular and holds events there. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/64 "2015-08-10T17:13:45Z")
Why does the ‘victim’ need a high price lawyer if she’s not gold digging? If we had the name and a picture of the woman, it would be easy for Croce to determine if she’s the same person that was heavily flirting with Kane. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/65 "2015-08-10T17:16:12Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Why does the ‘victim’ need a high price lawyer if she’s not gold digging? Interesting. Only gold diggers use high priced lawyers? ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/66 "2015-08-10T17:21:12Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > In the article quoted by Bruce above Croce later admitted he really doesn’t know if the woman he saw following Kane is the same one who reported the incident. He is the bar owner. He’s trying to cover his ass. And he probably has a personal relationship with Kane since he is a regular and holds events there. Exactly. So why quote him at all? There is nothing in the article that serves to counter his point except for a throwaway line at the end after spending the previous six paragraphs smearing her and defending Kane. In all the reporting on this case so far locally, not one person has been quoted or interviewed (that I’ve seen) saying “However, if the allegations are proven to be true - throw the book at him.” I’m sure it exists, but it is not being played up. Again - he is presumed to be innocent. But until the actual trial (or even in advance of any charges. He is still just the subject of an investigation), the media should not be picking sides simply because he is a local hero. …why yes, I am new to this planet…why do you ask? ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/67 "2015-08-10T17:23:05Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Why does the ‘victim’ need a high price lawyer if she’s not gold digging? If we had the name and a picture of the woman, it would be easy for Croce to determine if she’s the same person that was heavily flirting with Kane. This is silly. He’s got a high priced lawyer. Maybe she doesn’t want to be bullied. It is likely more of a sacrifice for her to afford one than it is for Kane. ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/68 "2015-08-10T17:32:05Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > … to determine if she’s the same person that was heavily flirting with Kane. Missed this part. Why do I get the feeling you’ve committed rape before. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/69 "2015-08-10T17:40:21Z")
> [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](#): > > Missed this part. Why do I get the feeling you’ve committed rape before. I don’t know or think that he’s committed it, but he’s definitely committed to defending it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/70 "2015-08-10T17:56:38Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Why does the ‘victim’ need a high price lawyer if she’s not gold digging? If we had the name and a picture of the woman, it would be easy for Croce to determine if she’s the same person that was heavily flirting with Kane. You’re a disgusting creep. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/71 "2015-08-10T18:12:59Z")
> [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](#): > > There has been all sorts of **fantastically** irresponsible reporting on this by the Buffalo News and the local television stations. > > [This article](http://www.buffalonews.com/feed/new-details-emerge-in-allegations-against-nhl-star-patrick-kane-20150809), which presents an “interview” with presumably **dale42** relative Mark Croce, pretty much says the alleged victim deserved it. You cannot watch a news broadcast here without some South Buffalo native [blowing smoke](http://wivb.com/2015/08/07/kane-case-shocks-south-buffalo/) about how he would never do such a thing. I’m all for due process - he is innocent until proven guilty - but this biased reporting is pure bullshit. I don’t know if they are intentionally trying to taint the jury pool but that article is ridiculous. All of the unidentified source quotes and leaks aren’t helping anyone involved in this. So far it appears to me the local police have tried to keep a tight lid on things so the investigation doesn’t get screwed up. Good luck with that, I guess. > [@dalej42](#): > > Why does the ‘victim’ need a high price lawyer if she’s not gold digging? You really have no hesitation making it clear you are a total piece of shit, do you? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/72 "2015-08-10T18:16:47Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Interesting. Only gold diggers use high priced lawyers? Well, tin diggers just don’t make the money a gold digger would. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/73 "2015-08-10T18:33:58Z")
I’m quite serious why I question why she’d need a high priced attorney. If this is just a potential criminal case then the district attorney would present the case against Kane. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/74 "2015-08-10T18:39:25Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I’m quite serious why I question why she’d need a high priced attorney. If this is just a potential criminal case then the district attorney would present the case against Kane. If this were just a potential criminal case, you wouldn’t have posted about it. She will be under attack from everyone like you, and god help us all there are a ton of you out there. ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/75 "2015-08-10T18:41:13Z")
What’s the lawyer’s price? And how do you know it? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/76 "2015-08-10T18:47:43Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I’m quite serious why I question why she’d need a high priced attorney. If this is just a potential criminal case then the district attorney would present the case against Kane. What’s really odd is that as far as I can tell (and googling and taking the top results can never be wrong!), her lawyer, Thomas J. Eoannou, is solely a criminal defense attorney. I don’t understand that. ---
**Author:** ![Enginerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/bcef8e/32.png) [@Enginerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enginerd)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/77 "2015-08-10T18:53:31Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I’m quite serious why I question why she’d need a high priced attorney. If this is just a potential criminal case then the district attorney would present the case against Kane. If she was bitten and/or otherwise injured and had to seek medical attention for those injuries, I imagine she’d like Mr. Kane to pay for those medical costs. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/78 "2015-08-10T18:55:26Z")
> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#): > > What’s the lawyer’s price? And how do you know it? A quick google search indicates that Eoannou previously represented country music star Tim McGraw. I doubt he’s a cheap attorney ---
**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/79 "2015-08-10T18:58:11Z")
Oh, so you don’t fucking know anything about it, but you have strong not-to-say-perversely-ardent opinions about it? That’s _so weird!_ ---
**Author:** ![Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Anonymous\_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anonymous_611029db27c9df0d53a8d56482d7eac3)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195/80 "2015-08-10T18:58:38Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I’m quite serious why I question why she’d need a high priced attorney. If this is just a potential criminal case then the district attorney would present the case against Kane. Listen chucklenuts, you’re out of your depth here. Let me explain to you a few facts. First of all, Patrick Kane is a hero in Buffalo. Buffalonians are very proud, and defensive, of their own. If she was trying to do a shakedown on a famous athlete - she picked the wrong one and in the wrong town. I will reiterate, Kane is innocent until proven guilty, but she would have very little incentive to fabricate a crime here. Second, there have been some very high-profile cases here recently where the consensus view is that money (read: high priced lawyers) won out over the law. Take the [Corasanti](http://www.buffalonews.com/Corasanti_receives_one_year_in_jail_Amherst_doctor_gets_maximum_term_in_Alix_Riceaposs_death_wonapost_appeal_ruling_as_her_parents_call_him_stupid_arrogant.html) case. Her hiring one is just a smart way to make sure she doesn’t get steamrolled by Kane’s team. (Note: I have no love for the purported victim’s lawyer. Thomas Eoannou is also defending this [piece of shit](http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/evans/a-year-later-no-progress-in-hit-run-fatality-20141221). The fact that people like Gabriele Ballowe exist hurts my soul.) Third - and my objection in the whole part, and related to point #1 - is the biased reporting and victim blaming that is going on here locally. That someone’s, like yours **dalej42** , default position is “greedy whore” is so tragically misguided that I question your integrity on anything you do or are involved in. So fuck off. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patrick-kane-rape-allegation/727195.md?page=5)