# Patriots' cameraman held for cheating - not the first time **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700 "2007-09-10T20:22:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/1 "2007-09-10T20:22:35Z")
Well - this might put a spin on the “Belichick’s a genius” meme… Full story [here](http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20706148/) ([MSNBC.com](http://MSNBC.com) story) and a quote: > [@](#): > > A New England Patriots video cameraman has been accused of spying on the New York Jets’ defensive unit during the Patriots’ 38-14 victory Sunday, ESPN reported Monday… > > …“It’s not their first time,” a member of the NFL competition committee told ESPN. > > ESPN said Green Bay Packers president Bob Harlan said the same Patriots’ cameraman did the same thing to his team on Nov. 19 of last year. In that incident, the Packers removed him the field field. > > “From what I can remember, he had quite a fit when we took him out,” Harlan said. “We had gotten word before the game that they [the Patriots] did this sort of thing, so we were looking for it.” I am not a Patriots fan or a hater (Niners fan here, thank you!) but this doesn’t look good…this seems to be a bit more than “hey, all’s fair in love and football” - this seems like out-and-out cheating, but I don’t know what is “normally” done by teams to try to achieve an advantage… ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/2 "2007-09-10T21:02:59Z")
Kind of helps us Browns fans figure out why Belechick took the Pats to the superbowl but not us… ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/3 "2007-09-10T22:33:39Z")
Well, you guys are the Browns. Nothing personal. Signed, Trevor (a Lions fan) ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/4 "2007-09-10T22:43:12Z")
I will always hate Bill Belichick, so I hope he’s guilty of something. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/5 "2007-09-10T22:44:57Z")
“Wah wah wah, we lost, wah wah wah, we couldn’t cover Randy Moss with three DBs, wah wah wah, the loudest cheer our home crowd gave all game was when our starting QB got injured, wah wah wah.” That’s what that article reads like to **me** , anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2007, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/6 "2007-09-10T23:45:09Z")
So it’s coming out like a stern talking to from Charlie Brown’s parents? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/7 "2007-09-11T00:09:26Z")
Unless Belichick (and Bill Parcells) have been doing this since about 1990, I’d say he’s probably still a great coach. But cheating is cheating - and even though I’m not a Pats fan, I almost have to hope they weren’t doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/8 "2007-09-11T00:47:51Z")
[QUOTE=Kiros] “Wah wah wah, we lost, wah wah wah, we couldn’t cover Randy Moss with three DBs, wah wah wah, the loudest cheer our home crowd gave all game was when our starting QB got injured, wah wah wah.” That’s what that article reads like to **me** , anyways. [/QUOTE] Spoken like a true Patriots fan. ---
**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-cameraman-held-for-cheating-not-the-first-time/418700/9 "2007-09-11T01:00:17Z")
[QUOTE=Hamlet] Spoken like a true Patriots fan. [/QUOTE] Damn straight, I was an awfully cute nine year old in a Scott Zolak jersey! (freaking bandwagoners these days…!)