# Patriots haters can ignore this **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 29, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651 "2019-10-29T16:10:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/1 "2019-10-29T16:10:25Z")
> **[With Tom Brady’s future in the air, New England is working trade lines to max...](https://sports.yahoo.com/with-tom-bradys-future-in-the-air-new-england-is-working-trade-lines-to-max-out-one-more-super-bowl-run-013103707.html)** > > New England has been checking in on offensive linemen and TEs. The goal: acquiring depth and skill around Brady for the coming Super Bowl push. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/2 "2019-10-29T16:34:10Z")
The Patriots are pretty much already in the Super Bowl. They are the only really good team in the AFC. Let’s put it this way, there are 5 teams in the NFC that have better records than every AFC team that isn’t New England. ---
**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/3 "2019-10-29T16:47:38Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The Patriots are pretty much already in the Super Bowl. They are the only really good team in the AFC. > > Let’s put it this way, there are 5 teams in the NFC that have better records than every AFC team that isn’t New England. The Pats have played a ridiculously weak schedule. 1 Sep08 Steelers 03 Patriots 33 2 Sep15 at Patriots 43 Dolphins 00 3 Sep22 Jets 14 Patriots 30 4 Sep29 at Patriots 16 Bills 10 5 Oct06 at Patriots 33 Redskins 07 6 Oct10 Giants 14 Patriots 35 7 Oct21 at Patriots 33 Jets 00 8 Oct27 Browns 13 at patriots 27 Compare to the Raiders schedule Broncos 16 Raiders 24 2 Sep15 Chiefs 28 Raiders 10 3 Sep22 at Raiders 14 Vikings 34 4 Sep29 at Raiders 31 Colts 24 5 Oct06 Bears 21 Raiders 24 6 Bye Week 7 Oct20 Raiders 24 at Packers 42 8 Raiders 24 at Texans 27 ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/4 "2019-10-29T16:52:18Z")
The talk radio chatter here in Boston has pretty much taken a trip to Super Bowl 54 as a given, and is concentrating on 19-0 vs not 19-0, and Brady’s 2020 destination. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/5 "2019-10-29T17:05:14Z")
Please stop with the lazy OPs. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/6 "2019-10-29T17:11:16Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > The Pats have played a ridiculously weak schedule. They usually do. They are in the easiest division in the NFL over the past couple of decades, though the Bills look decent this year. But they’re usually guaranteed 6 very winnable games a year. The difference this year is that suddenly they have a fantastic defense to go along with their traditionally good offense. I think you can debate which of the three teams is better; Patriots, Saints, or Niners. But in the AFC even factoring in their easy record the Patriots are scary good. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/7 "2019-10-29T17:18:19Z")
> [@muldoonthief](#): > > The talk radio chatter here in Boston has pretty much taken a trip to Super Bowl 54 as a given, and is concentrating on 19-0 vs not 19-0, and Brady’s 2020 destination. The only question left is who they will beat in the Super Bowl. I think NFC teams may start tanking games so it doesn’t turn out to be them. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/8 "2019-10-29T17:45:45Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The only question left is who they will beat in the Super Bowl. My dream scenario is the 18-0 49ers (with Garoppolo) vs the 18-0 Pats, playing in Miami. Besides the great storylines, it would mean we’re guaranteed that someone would finally make the 1974 Dolphins STFU. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/9 "2019-10-29T18:34:00Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > My dream scenario is the 18-0 49ers (with Garoppolo) vs the 18-0 Pats, playing in Miami. Besides the great storylines, it would mean we’re guaranteed that someone would finally make the 1974 Dolphins STFU. It would be even better if Miami pulls off the perfectly futile 0-16 in the same season. Extra credit if Cinncinnati is 0-14 when they meet in the second to last week of the regular season for a battle of the train wrecks. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/10 "2019-10-29T18:45:25Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > It would be even better if Miami pulls off the perfectly futile 0-16 in the same season. Extra credit if Cinncinnati is 0-14 when they meet in the second to last week of the regular season for a battle of the train wrecks. I’d like it better if both teams go 0-15-1. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/11 "2019-10-29T18:56:49Z")
It’s interesting that almost their entire schedule so far is bad teams, and the one good team played them pretty close. I think it leaves open the question of whether they’re great or merely very good and beating up on bad teams. That question will be answered in the coming weeks. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/12 "2019-10-29T19:04:00Z")
Getting there is one thing, but winning it is entirely another. I look at the 49ers, Saints, and Packers and see teams that probably should beat them. Brady is an awesome first ballot Hall of Fame caliber QB, but those teams have awesome QBs of their own. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/13 "2019-10-29T19:20:49Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > My dream scenario is the 18-0 49ers (with Garoppolo) vs the 18-0 Pats, playing in Miami. Besides the great storylines, it would mean we’re guaranteed that someone would finally make the 1974 Dolphins STFU. Except, of course, it was the _1972_ Dolphins that had the undefeated season, capped by the victory over the Skins in Super Bowl VII on January 14, 1973. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/14 "2019-10-29T21:09:35Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Except, of course, it was the _1972_ Dolphins that had the undefeated season, capped by the victory over the Skins in Super Bowl VII on January 14, 1973. Sure, they can shut up too! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/15 "2019-10-29T21:25:56Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > Sure, they can shut up too! 🙂 You’re somewhat getting your wish. ☹ [Football’s toll: At least eight members of 1972 Dolphins affected by cognitive impairment](https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article150311157.html) /buzzkill ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/16 "2019-10-29T21:35:12Z")
**[Moderating]** > [@Omniscient](#): > > Please stop with the lazy OPs. Agreed. If you have something to say, then say it. If you don’t have anything to say, then don’t say it. Any further OPs provided without discussion will be closed. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/17 "2019-10-29T22:46:59Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The Patriots are pretty much already in the Super Bowl. They are the only really good team in the AFC. As the writer of the article wrote Baltimore could surprise and K.C. could be a factor once P.M. returns but if the Patriots gain home field then I don’t think it’ll matter. > [@Atamasama](#): > > Let’s put it this way, there are 5 teams in the NFC that have better records than every AFC team that isn’t New England. I think there are 10 N.F.C. teams that will be vying for a playoff spot through Week 17. Deciding which one is going to make it to the S.B. is a bit of a crap shoot. Right now I’d lay money down on San Francisco first and “Nawlins” 2nd with G.B., the Rams, and Seattle in the next tier. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/18 "2019-10-30T01:58:15Z")
> [@racepug](#): > > I think there are 10 N.F.C. teams that will be vying for a playoff spot through Week 17. Deciding which one is going to make it to the S.B. is a bit of a crap shoot. Right now I’d lay money down on San Francisco first and “Nawlins” 2nd with G.B., the Rams, and Seattle in the next tier. The Vikings are good(?) too, kind of, or sometimes they play like they’re good, so I’d count them as contenders as well. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/19 "2019-10-30T13:04:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > You’re somewhat getting your wish. ☹ I find it more difficult to watch football with unbridled enjoyment knowing the price the players are inevitably going to pay. I don’t wish that on anyone. ---
**Author:** ![racepug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@racepug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racepug)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651/20 "2019-10-30T13:40:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > The Vikings are good(?) too, kind of, or sometimes they play like they’re good, so I’d count them as contenders as well. Eh. They may end up being a factor but I don’t have much faith in that franchise (for me, going 40+ years without even getting to a S.B., let alone winning one, will do that). [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/patriots-haters-can-ignore-this/842651.md?page=2)