# Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Jason Chaffetz etc SHOWING DISRESPECT: Avoiding Saying "Trump" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 15, 2017, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863 "2017-02-15T00:05:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/41 "2017-02-15T17:20:01Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > What’s wrong with the so-called President? I find the phrase irksome. It sounds like denial. There is no ‘so-called’ about it. We may wish it was different, but he’s got the job. _‘so-caller leader’_ would still be appropriate. As would Cheeto-in-Chief. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/42 "2017-02-15T17:33:44Z")
I’ve repeatedly called him “Trumpy Wumpy”, just because he sounds like and is as intellectual as a nursery rhyme. But I really do like Twitler and SCROTUS. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/43 "2017-02-15T17:51:44Z")
Sam Seder says “The President Electoral.” ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/44 "2017-02-15T19:07:36Z")
“D’errr Furor”? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/45 "2017-02-15T19:15:08Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I think **Buck** and **Little Nemo** are onto something. The emphasis is on the office and its functions, not a personality. > > Or maybe they are just rubbing the noses of those still in denial in it - he is the President, with no qualification. There’s nothing nominal or so-called or pretend about it - Trump is the President of the United States, just like Obama was, and for exactly the same reason. > > Regards, > Shodan > [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I find the phrase irksome. It sounds like denial. There is no ‘so-called’ about it. We may wish it was different, but he’s got the job. > > _‘so-caller leader’_ would still be appropriate. As would Cheeto-in-Chief. I see your point, but he called a real judge “so-called,” so it’s tit for tat. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/46 "2017-02-15T20:13:47Z")
And I’m all in favor of tits. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/47 "2017-02-15T20:14:39Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Works fine in print but… When said out loud, you use air quotes. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/48 "2017-02-15T21:38:13Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Yeah, I think this is it. By saying “the president” then it emphasizes the office and its authority. It brings back the idea that of whether or not you respect the man you must respect the office, which for some reason seems to be coming back in vogue among Republicans in the last month after an eight year hiatus. Funny how that works, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/49 "2017-02-15T21:40:20Z")
> [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > I find the phrase irksome. It sounds like denial. There is no ‘so-called’ about it. We may wish it was different, but he’s got the job. > > _‘so-caller leader’_ would still be appropriate. As would Cheeto-in-Chief. But for how long? The Russian connection seems to FINALLY be gathering momentum. I’ve been questioning it for months myself. Sooner or later there should be a tipping point. “Putin’s bitch” is as good a title as any. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/50 "2017-02-15T21:57:06Z")
I’ve been saying ‘Putin’s Poodle’ but not typing it, as it may be too close an echo of accusations made about Tony Blair, yea many years ago. As for Trump’s so-called allies (Ryan, McConnell, Chaffetz, etc.) working hard to avoid saying his name—no, kiddies, they’re not avoiding his name to be More Respectful. They’re avoiding saying his name so that there won’t be any video or audio clips that can be used against them in their upcoming re-election fights. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [February 15, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/51 "2017-02-15T22:35:48Z")
How about PO(TU)S? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/52 "2017-02-16T00:10:24Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I just saw in a comments section the best possible title. > > SCROTUS( So-Called Ruler Of The United States) > > That earns a 21 grin salute. > :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D You just won the Internets! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/53 "2017-02-16T12:17:13Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > You just won the Internets! Undeserved but thanks. As I noted, I only found the phrase. Elayne Boosler [gets the credit.](https://www.indy100.com/article/s-c-r-o-t-u-s-7576276) > [@](#): > > From what we can gather, it was comedian and writer Elayne Boosler who coined the phrase originally. > > Go forth, and enjoy your new word. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/54 "2017-02-16T14:07:25Z")
Possible gonad sighting. Still too early to know for sure. > [@](#): > > “Flynn saga shifts balance of power between president, Congress” > [https://wpo.st/GO1c2](https://wpo.st/GO1c2) > > Michael Flynn’s resignation as national security adviser is shifting the balance of power between President Trump and Congress, with Republican senators vowing to more aggressively exercise oversight of the new administration and Democrats seizing an opportunity to ask pointed questions about Trump’s ties to Russia. > … > > "You know, everybody looks at last year’s election and says it was a change election,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Well, it was in the presidential race, but in the Senate races, it was not a change election.” > > McConnell reiterated that the Senate Intelligence Committee will take the lead in investigating Flynn, rather than an independent panel. > > “I don’t think we need to go through setting up a special committee,” said McConnell. “But we are going to look at Russian involvement in the U.S. election. It’s a significant issue.” > > Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chair Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) agreed that “Russia’s the elephant in the room.” > > “That’s what we need to be dealing with,” Corker said… We’ll see. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/55 "2017-02-16T14:54:14Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Do you have a room in your house with all this pasted up on a wall, with bits of yarn tying them all together in a web of conspiracy? Have you stayed up until 4 in the morning on multiple days agonizing over all the interlinkages, color coding by zip code and social security number? > > No? You’re not trying hard enough!! Hint: The key is in the 4th word of every 3rd paragraph by these people. String together reverse alphabetically by speaker, and you’ve got it! Ran a search and concatenate using your parameters and the complete works of Ayn Rand popped out. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/56 "2017-02-16T17:55:59Z")
> [@Sherrerd](#): > > Sure, they all say “the President”-----but they won’t say “President Trump.” Why not? Doesn’t he deserve to have his name spoken? No. Respect has to be _earned_, and if it’s not earned yet it’s not required to give it. > [@Sherrerd](#): > > You’re talking about Ryan, McConnell, et al? Yes, I can well imagine that they didn’t want to say the word “President” when referring to a Democrat. > > But that’s not the same thing, because the situation here is that they ostensibly are on the same side as Trump. They are willing to use him to advance their own agendas _without showing him the basic respect of using his name_. So… you’re saying it was OK to disrepect President Obama or a Democrat President but not OK to disrespect Trump? Sorry - I actually like that they aren’t using such a double-standard. Who cares if they’re happy with the PotUS or not? ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/57 "2017-02-16T21:42:56Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Or maybe they are just rubbing the noses of those still in denial in it - he is the President, with no qualification. There’s nothing nominal or so-called or pretend about it - Trump is the President of the United States, just like Obama was, and for exactly the same reason. Although, if it’s acceptable for Trump to question the legitimacy of a federal judge who has been on the bench since 2004, it seems only fair to use the same turn of phrase to question the legitimacy of this so-called President who not only has only been in office for less than a month but has neither held previous public office in his 70 years nor has a political science education. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/58 "2017-02-16T21:45:10Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > How about PO(TU)S? Or maybe POSUS (Piece of Shit [of the] United States)? ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2017, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/59 "2017-02-16T22:14:12Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Although, if it’s acceptable for Trump to question the legitimacy of a federal judge who has been on the bench since 2004, it seems only fair to use the same turn of phrase to question the legitimacy of this so-called President who not only has only been in office for less than a month but has neither held previous public office in his 70 years nor has a political science education. That was my thinking. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863/60 "2017-02-17T00:50:12Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > So… you’re saying it was OK to disrepect President Obama or a Democrat President but not OK to disrespect Trump? No, I’m saying that those who are benefiting from Trump’s popularity, as that popularity permits them to pass their dream-legislation, are the ones who should show him the respect of speaking his name. As opposed to making very, very, very, very, VERY sure that no video or audio clip exists of them saying his name-----because they know such clips can and will be used against them when they run for re-election. I’m saying that these men (pretty much) are USING Trump without showing him the common courtesy of saying his name. They are USING him and at the same time, choosing to disassociate themselves from him. I don’t care what Trump’s opponents call him or don’t call him. I’m saying that those who are making use of him should show him the basic respect of using his name. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-ryan-mitch-mcconnell-jason-chaffetz-etc-showing-disrespect-avoiding-saying-trump/779863.md?page=4)