# Paul Walker has Died.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 1, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184 "2013-12-01T03:12:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/41 "2013-12-01T07:28:24Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> didn’t know who he was. don’t care
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> fast and furious are dumm movies for the plebs

No way! My butler loves them.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/42 "2013-12-01T08:02:08Z")

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I’ve never seen the Fast and Furious movies (being one of the elite and all), but I remember him from Pleasantville. What a shame.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/43 "2013-12-01T09:28:48Z")

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> [@Patch](#):
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> Looking forward to hearing more about it.

You might want to phrase that sentiment a little differently. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/44 "2013-12-01T09:32:37Z")

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> [@chizzuk](#):
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> I just watched Top Gear’s review of the Porsche Carrera GT back when it came out and Jeremy Clarkson said it was a thrilling, unbelievably fast car and he loved it but that it was very hard to drive and the handling was unforgiving. The Stig spun it out on his first attempt around the track. It sounds like the car gives almost no margin for error.

[For reference](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_WqdKbTvY#t=6m7s).

As far as the fate of the movie franchise goes, I think they’d be in bigger trouble if it was Vin Diesel. His was certainly one of the major characters, in the top three maybe, but it is an ensemble franchise that has had some turnover between movies.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/45 "2013-12-01T10:10:22Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> As far as the fate of the movie franchise goes, I think they’d be in bigger trouble if it was Vin Diesel. His was certainly one of the major characters, in the top three maybe, but it is an ensemble franchise that has had some turnover between movies.

I thought he was only in the first one, but IMDB says he was in sixth and the upcoming seventh.

So, given that he’s been in less than half the movies already, probably the franchise can do without Vin, too.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/46 "2013-12-01T10:36:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I thought he was only in the first one, but IMDB says he was in sixth and the upcoming seventh.
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> So, given that he’s been in less than half the movies already, probably the franchise can do without Vin, too.

He’s been in four of the six, and has been a producer for the last three.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/47 "2013-12-01T10:44:07Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I thought he was only in the first one, but IMDB says he was in sixth and the upcoming seventh.

The numbering of the [Fast and Furious](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fast_and_the_Furious) movies is haphazard. Vin Diesel’s character of Dominic Toretto was in every movie except number 2, and only a cameo in number 3 (which is technically set sometime in the future\*). Numbers 2 and 3 are also considered the worst of the series and easily ignored, while episode 1 and then 4 onward slot together very closely and are a lot of ridiculous fun.

I’m going to guess that at some point in episode 7, Paul Walker’s character of Brian O’Conner will be driving a car really fast and taking risks. It shouldn’t be too difficult to manufacture a plot turn where O’Conner dies.

\*_It’s complicated_

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**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/48 "2013-12-01T12:19:20Z")

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unfair warning

not liking a person isn’t a crime

how long do you have to wait after someone dies to say you didn’t like him

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/49 "2013-12-01T12:30:07Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> unfair warning
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> not liking a person isn’t a crime
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> how long do you have to wait after someone dies to say you didn’t like him

You said you didn’t know who he was, now you don’t like him?

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/50 "2013-12-01T12:32:05Z")

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Damn, he was only 40 years old. Unfortunately there are some mistakes you only get to make once.

I enjoyed the Fast and the Furious movies _(of those I’ve seen)_, a lot of big dumb fun. I did want to grab his character by the lapels and shake him though, throwing away a police career for what exactly?

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/51 "2013-12-01T12:59:23Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> unfair warning
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> not liking a person isn’t a crime
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> how long do you have to wait after someone dies to say you didn’t like him

Let me get this straight: although you’ve been here several years, you have never heard of the concept of threadshitting, and have no clue why that might be a problem?

Anyway, sad as it is, what a Hollywood ending. Nevertheless, another one here thinking that although Walker was one of the better things in the F 'n F franchise, the series will no doubt keep going. There have already been versions with almost nothing in common with the Walker/Diesel films but the title (_Tokyo Drift_, anyone?)

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/52 "2013-12-01T13:28:28Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> unfair warning
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> not liking a person isn’t a crime
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> how long do you have to wait after someone dies to say you didn’t like him

Oh, please. You know exactly what threadshitting is and why it’s rude to jump into a memorial thread to say “who cares he’s dead”. You’re opinion of him as an actor has nothing to do with it.

Anyway, complaints about mod actions go in ATMB, as I’m sure you also know.

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**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/53 "2013-12-01T13:35:48Z")

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> [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> Damn, he was only 40 years old. Unfortunately there are some mistakes you only get to make once.

He wasn’t even driving apparently.

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/54 "2013-12-01T15:12:38Z")

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He also starred in [this](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397313/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) – makes me weep every time, mostly because it’s based on a true story.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/55 "2013-12-01T16:02:14Z")

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> [@PSXer](#):
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> unfair warning
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> not liking a person isn’t a crime
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> how long do you have to wait after someone dies to say you didn’t like him

Take it to ATMB – this thread isn’t the place to discuss it.

**twickster** , Cafe Society moderator

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/56 "2013-12-01T16:32:49Z")

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Apparently the deal was that others could drive with him for a price, which was donated to Philippine typhoon relief.

He’s also gone to Chile and Haiti to help out with disaster relief there as well.

I did meet the guy once, we were doing similar workouts at the gym and got to talking a bit, being in the same area and all. Very nice guy.

Still can’t believe it. He’s my age, and that’s way too young.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/57 "2013-12-01T16:48:15Z")

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A shame. I think I’ve seen only two of the Fast and the Furious films containing Walker – I saw _Tokyo Drift_ too – and while he clearly wasn’t going to win any acting awards, those were fun to watch and you could tell he was having a good time.

RIP, Paul. ☹

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/58 "2013-12-01T17:00:18Z")

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> [@RikWriter](#):
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> He wasn’t even driving apparently.

Yes, apparently according to HSHP below he was even trying to do a good thing. :\

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/59 "2013-12-01T17:04:16Z")

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> [@Disposable Hero](#):
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> Yes, apparently according to HSHP below he was even trying to do a good thing. :\

What is the hshp and where is it below?

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/60 "2013-12-01T17:11:58Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> What is the hshp and where is it below?

Happy Scrappy Hero Pup.

_Above_ dammit.

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