# Paul Walker has Died. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 1, 2013, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184 "2013-12-01T03:12:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/61 "2013-12-01T17:18:21Z")
Very sad. What a stupid stupid way to die. Completely preventable. I feel so bad for his family. ---
**Author:** ![Patch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a183cd/32.png) [@Patch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patch)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/62 "2013-12-01T17:24:30Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > You might want to phrase that sentiment a little differently. 🙂 Stuff like this is somewhat job related, and I like reading about fatal accidents and their cause as it helps me figure out what we can do to stop others. It can be a little gruesome, though. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/63 "2013-12-01T17:50:43Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > Very sad. What a stupid stupid way to die. Completely preventable. I feel so bad for his family. Not that stupid…accidents happen all the time. It’s not as if he jumped off a bridge while drunk at a party. He simply got into a car with a friend he’d known for years and that man had an accident. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/64 "2013-12-01T18:27:16Z")
I just left the car show he was scheduled to be at today. Another charity gig, this one was toys for tots. Lots of the cars had stickers a RIP Paul Walker on them. > [@RikWriter](#): > > Not that stupid…accidents happen all the time. It’s not as if he jumped off a bridge while drunk at a party. He simply got into a car with a friend he’d known for years and that man had an accident. I say this with all sincerity, I hope both of them were killed instantly as I would not wish death by fire on anyone. With that said when you go off road with so much velocity that hitting a light pole causes the car to burst into flames you have crossed the line from “had an accident” to actively stupid. That type of speed belongs on a track, and only on a track. I mean what if there had been another car on the road or what if there had been a kid crossing the street? I suspect when they autopsy the driver they will find blood and guts but no brains. It is too bad his stupidity killed Mr. Walker. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/65 "2013-12-01T18:32:17Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > how long do you have to wait after someone dies to say you didn’t like him I waited 72 hrs after Princess Diana, 24 for Bob Hope, 12 hrs for Mikey Jackson. No joking for a solid week after 9/11, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/66 "2013-12-01T18:37:44Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > I suspect when they autopsy the driver they will find blood and guts but no brains. **It is too bad his stupidity killed Mr. Walker**. You do know he wasn’t the driver, right? ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/67 "2013-12-01T18:42:46Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > You do know he wasn’t the driver, right? I think the ‘his’ in what you quote refers to the driver, himself. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/68 "2013-12-01T19:08:01Z")
> [@Lasciel](#): > > You do know he wasn’t the driver, right? Wow. Reading the post I quoted AND the sentence of mine you quoted and you are under the impression I thought Paul Walker was driving? Wow, just wow. Words fail me. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/69 "2013-12-01T19:27:05Z")
> [@Rick](#): > > Wow. Reading the post I quoted AND the sentence of mine you quoted and you are under the impression I thought Paul Walker was driving? > Wow, just wow. Words fail me. I didn’t want to be rude. But I wondered about the comprehension of someone who read that paragraph and still thought you thought Walker was driving. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/70 "2013-12-01T19:27:48Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > I didn’t want to be rude. But I wondered about the comprehension of someone who read that paragraph and still thought you thought Walker was driving. Ditto. I tried to gently point it out. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/71 "2013-12-01T19:28:56Z")
> [@PSXer](#): > > didn’t know who he was. don’t care > > fast and furious are dumm movies for the plebs I could have written the first line of your post, but wouldn’t have. Second line? I’ve never seen them, but how would I know, and how would _you_ know, if you don’t know or care? How did you manage to _see_ them, not knowing or caring? Threadshit much? Other than that, [this impact took some _ **hella-speed** _](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1533818.1385876653!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/walker-crash.jpg) to accomplish. I’d classify that as ‘Darwin Award’, rather than ‘accident’. It took _real_ work to accomplish _that_ one. ETA: Already addressed. Ignore my criticism of the post. > [@Marley23](#): > > Criticism of his movies is permissible, but this is obnoxious and trollish. I’m giving you a warning and you will probably get more of them if you don’t refine your schtick. _Trolling is not allowed here._ ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/72 "2013-12-01T19:55:39Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > Other than that, [this impact took some _ **hella-speed** _](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1533818.1385876653!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_635/walker-crash.jpg) to accomplish. I’d classify that as ‘Darwin Award’, rather than ‘accident’. It took _real_ work to accomplish _that_ one. Keep in mind that the frame is carbon fibre and not metal, so a lot of that damage might be from the resulting fire and not the initial impact. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/73 "2013-12-01T20:00:11Z")
> [@simster](#): > > damn - ironic - but damn. I guess I get to be the inevitable pedant on this one. If Walker had starred in a series of driver safety films called _Careful and Cautious_, then his death in a speeding car crash would be ironic. But dying in a way that is quite similar to the plots of his Fast and Furious films is coincidental or if you’re like \*\*PSXer \*\*and don’t like him or those films, poetic justice. But do feel bad for the guy, even if I think those films sort of suck. He didn’t deserve that. ---
**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/74 "2013-12-01T20:21:18Z")
Apparently the driver (Not PW) had some racing experience. [Court: Porsche not at fault in Paul Walker, Roger Rodas crash](http://www.autoweek.com/article/20131201/CARNEWS/131209999) This only reinforces my opinion that it took active stupidity to have a crash this severe on a public road. A race driver should know better. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/75 "2013-12-01T20:24:46Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Keep in mind that the frame is carbon fibre and not metal, so a lot of that damage might be from the resulting fire and not the initial impact. Not much fire damage at all on that tree, except for breaking it off near the ground. It was mostly impact damage. Not much fire at all. I’m highly skeptical that there was much fire. I still vote for impact damage, and a Darwin. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/76 "2013-12-01T20:32:08Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > Keep in mind that the frame is carbon fibre and not metal, so a lot of that damage might be from the resulting fire and not the initial impact. Oh, yeah. Carbon fibre is mostly some carbon fibres, which will burn well, in an epoxy resin, which mostly won’t, unless you’re fueling it with something else. The carbon fibres in it won’t work as fuel, unless you light up the epoxy resin with something else. I don’t buy it. Especially since the tree they rammed shows little to no fire damage, in the pic I linked, above. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/77 "2013-12-01T20:57:31Z")
The articles I saw said they hit a light pole, so presumably hitting the tree was a secondary collision. ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/78 "2013-12-01T21:06:46Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > The articles I saw said they hit a light pole, so presumably hitting the tree was a secondary collision. They woulda had to hit it _real_ fucking hard to go entirely through it, leaving no pieces of it, then hit the tree like that. It would have required an even higher speed than was actually postulated. I’m a bit skeptical of that version. ---
**Author:** ![Jesse\_Pinkman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a183cd/32.png) [@Jesse\_Pinkman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesse_Pinkman)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/79 "2013-12-01T21:13:58Z")
That really sucks. The guy was never going to win an Oscar, but he was likable and a nice dude by all accounts. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2013, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184/80 "2013-12-01T21:30:50Z")
> [@Cheshire\_Human](#): > > They woulda had to hit it _real_ fucking hard to go entirely through it, leaving no pieces of it, then hit the tree like that. It would have required an even higher speed than was actually postulated. I’m a bit skeptical of that version. Aren’t light poles typically designed to break away? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paul-walker-has-died/675184.md?page=5)