# Paula Deen **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 27, 2013, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049 "2013-06-27T17:56:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 23
**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/441 "2013-07-09T21:21:29Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > There is no media one-sided reporting. Continuing to insist that there is is disingenuous at best, and lying at worst. You’re simply not right about this, you racist apologist fuckwit. > > Once again, with feeling, and as has been explained to you multiple times in multiple ways from multiple people, it’s not 30-year-old comments, you racist apologist fuckwit. > > That’s not what’s happening, you racist apologist fuckwit. > > This isn’t a conversation, you racist apologist fuckwit. It’s you continuing to misrepresent what’s happening, bat your oh-so-innocent eyelashes to claim that you’re JAQing off, and continue to insist that there’s a perfectly legitimate explanation for the behavior that’s problematic. > > So continue to be a racist apologist fuckwit equine of a single trick, but you’re simply not right about any of what’s going on. > > Someone upthread copied and pasted every single fucking time you’ve made the statement about 30 years ago, for one, so go fuck yourself, you piece of shit. Complaining about my repeating the points I try to make over and over again doesn’t answer them or make them go away. And you are right, it’s not a conversation. With the exception to a few posters (very few) my legitamite questions are concerns are continuously interpreted as though I am condoning or defending racist behavior. I understand the claims that it’s not about a 30 year old comment, but that seems to be the main argument for Paula Deen’s current situation and certainly the move cited and getting the most attention. If the media’s report is not one-sided, then show me where I am wrong. Saying I’m wrong about it, and then calling me a list of cuss words doesn’t prove you right, doesn’t address what I’m saying and isn’t going to get me to shut up. It will just sopt my responding to you. ---
**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/442 "2013-07-09T21:38:34Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Can we just talk a little bit about this “letter” that Ms. Jackson supposedly wrote stating how wonderful Ms. Deen was. It cannot have escaped the notice of anybody actually reading it that it was a request to develop a business relationship. Anybody but an idiot would realize that if you want somebody to support your business, you start by telling them how wonderful they are. Now of course this make Ms. Jackson a bit of an opportunistic hypocrite. Let’s then completely discount her testimony and ignore the actual case. Let’s also ignore anything said 30 years ago. What we are left with is that Paula Deen still insists that it is OK to find racist jokes amusing as long as her family and friends are the ones telling them and that she is still not aware the the n-word is offensive, even after being raked over the coals for using it 30 years ago and even after “apologizing” for using it. She still doesn’t understand that you don’t use that word if you are white. She refuses to “get it”. She’s a racist idiot and rather than acknowledge cultural differences that makes certain words OK within an ethnic group but not between ethnic groups she blames her staff for her own attitudes. Yay!!! Someone read something that might reflect another side to the story!! You are exactly right. Ms. Jackson trying to get Paula to back her on a business venture and of course she would be super duper nice because she was trying to get her money. There are several other instances that would cause one to question Jackson’s story. Is she an opportunistic hypocrite? IDK. Maybe. Is Paula Deen a silly old racist? IDK. Probably. Does the news take the time to report both sides of they story so the public can make an educated opinion? Hell no, no money in that. ---
**Author:** ![aag3981](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@aag3981](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aag3981)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/443 "2013-07-09T21:45:03Z")
> [@Troppus](#): > > Sigh. Well, poor, misunderstood Paula credits her parents with raising her to be a kind person, but she contradicts that while claiming to be a naively innocent product of her Southern environment so she cain’t help it if she is accustomed to hearing and employing the n-word, it’s cultural, dontcha see. All white southerners use the n word, tell racist jokes, and pine for the plantations. And also a black held her up while she worked at a bank long ago and so she felt justified in referring to the robber as nigger and probably used the word since then and also she told someone she wanted to have an old fashioned wedding where she could dress up the “monkeys” as slaves but the media would be all over her if she did that wouldn’t they. And when pressed about her racist attitudes by Matt Lauer she impugned the blacks who work in her kitchen and shamed them for referring to each other as nigger thus totally deflecting the question and the blame by batting those sticky eyelashes and rolling her eyes at everyone who is unfairly persecuting her and forcing the fame and fortune right out of her greasy fingers. > > Basically she failed to uphold her image clauses and is looking to blame everyone and everything else for losing her contracts and sponsors. She could have apologized and run for office like many of our formerly disgraced but reelected politicians, but she’s chosen to minimize the feelings of the fans she alienated, the sponsors she embarrassed, and the general public who finds that word to be classless and ugly, so she’s pretty much lost all marketing credibility even while she gained some diehard support from the closeted and flaming racist Facebook slacktists and one clueless, repetitive weirdo here. > > She comes off as pretty sly and sleazy on the [Today Show interview](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PL02LMD8Gw), and it’s not hard to understand why sponsors are dropping her like a burnt fritter. Nothing, as far as I can tell, is preventing her from publishing cookbooks, opening more restaurants with her own earnings, or offering those Tea Party and KKK pancake socials and fundraisers. I’m sure Chik Fil A would love to offer her a store or two to grandstand in. But I doubt she has time to labor under her own efforts though while she’s still trolling for pity and white justice. No evidence that Paula regularly employs the N-word. No one said that all white southerner pine for plantation weddings, use the N-word or tell racist jokes. Paula never said she wanted to dress up little monkeys for a wedding. There was deflection on the Today The second paragraph is correct, only that I believe this is a reaction to the media’s reporting. > [@](#): > > even while she gained some diehard support from the closeted and flaming racist Facebook slacktists and one clueless, repetitive weirdo here. You guys complain about my constantly coming back but I’m pretty sure you have been with me for at least 6 pages Troppus. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/444 "2013-07-09T23:40:36Z")
man you are basically just a punctured mylar balloon filled with pumpkin roll diarrhea i mean, you were five days ago, too, but now the spew-hole is a bit bigger than it was then and also you’ve got some jeep tread prints over the front of you that make it harder to read your festive legend. is it… “Happy Graduation!”? ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_Charisma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecccb3/32.png) [@Kid\_Charisma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_Charisma)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/445 "2013-07-09T23:44:56Z")
> [@aag3981](#): > > Should it be “just another day at the office” though? Is it fair to have all this damage done because of media one sided reporting? This strikes me as a pretty extreme backlash. No, it shouldn’t be just “another day at the office.” But, let’s examine things, isn’t the ENTIRE point of this thread, from start to finish, that Paula Deen during her un-washed days used a racial slur and that people of color, and their white supporters, should ultimately get over it? I am not “baiting”, whatsoever. Just seems to me that is what most of the Paula Deen defenders on this board are saying. “It was a comment thirty years old”, why is it relevant today? Oh, and by the way, “get over it.” That’s it; prove me wrong. I wouldn’t give too much credit to the media and their “gotcha” brand of reporting. Deen’s own mouth, you know, had a LOT to do with what’s being reported. You say it’s one-sided? Okay. But, has EVERY bit of reporting, since the dawn of time. been “exactly call it down the middle?” Because a black woman had glowing reviews about Deen isn’t the total experience of all black people that were ever associated with her. Do you think if Deen never caught so much public flack about this whole deal that she would have been as moved to tears as she was on the Today Show? Often times, we reach for the onion after we have embarrassed ourselves, particularly when there’s an audience watching/listening. I have nothing against her. As in, I don’t know the woman personally. For goodness sake it’s very possible I am wrong about her. I, like you and everyone else, can only go on what’s presented in front of me. She just came across as insincere to me. I don’t like the fact that it’s so easy to blame other groups of people, and their nasty misuse of the word, and figure it’s your cue to use it too. The problem I think most people had was, as I said, her overall disposition. She seemed unaffected. Some people want to say that the “race card” is being played. A modern term. But, however, that supposed card is as effective as a two of diamonds. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2013, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/446 "2013-07-09T23:46:05Z")
> [@miss\_elizabeth](#): > > It’s astonishing how invested someone can get in defending a racist. If people worked this hard _against_ racism, we’d have ended it by now. Nice post. +1 a fuckin million times over. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/447 "2013-07-10T07:35:44Z")
> [@aag3981](#): > > Complaining about my repeating the points I try to make over and over again doesn’t answer them or make them go away. You claim that you never made any of the statements that you actually made, as evidenced by people cutting and pasting your own fucking posts. > [@aag3981](#): > > And you are right, it’s not a conversation. With the exception to a few posters (very few) my legitamite questions are concerns are continuously interpreted as though I am condoning or defending racist behavior. Your questions, while NOT legitimate, have been answered numerous times. > [@aag3981](#): > > I understand the claims that it’s not about a 30 year old comment, but that seems to be the main argument for Paula Deen’s current situation and certainly the move cited and getting the most attention. It’s been explained to you numerous times that this is NOT the main argument. > [@aag3981](#): > > If the media’s report is not one-sided, then show me where I am wrong. It’s been explained to you numerous times. > [@aag3981](#): > > Saying I’m wrong about it, and then calling me a list of cuss words doesn’t prove you right, doesn’t address what I’m saying and isn’t going to get me to shut up. It will just sopt my responding to you. It’s been explained to you numerous times. Your inability to read the words given speak to your illiteracy, your racism, your oddly impassioned defense of a racist, or all of the above. In other words, Paula, you were wrong, you’re a racist, and you’re ignorant of your own racism. You deserve what you’re getting. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2013, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/448 "2013-07-10T11:53:08Z")
Cracked takes on Paula Deen and her fans – > **[4 Groups of Fans Who Have Apparently Lost Their Mind](https://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-groups-fans-who-have-apparently-lost-their-mind)** > > These groups react by defending their absolutely indefensible celebrity hero, which leads to deranged overreactions such as these. > **[4 Respected Celebrities Who Are Slowly Losing Their Minds](https://www.cracked.com/quick-fixes/4-respected-celebrities-who-are-slowly-losing-their-minds)** > > If the celebrity mind is an engine, a lot of them start rattling loudly around 50,000 miles. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/449 "2013-07-11T03:41:27Z")
From _Tao Te Ching_, Chaper 8: > [@](#): > > When you are content to be simply yourself > and don’t compare or compete, > everybody will respect you. Not much overlap between that and usage of ‘nigger’, no? ---
**Author:** ![ombre12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@ombre12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ombre12)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/450 "2013-07-12T01:25:12Z")
I should not get into this again , but I am a little bored right now…and so will delve deeper into the awful everyone is going to dump on you in the worst way with the worst one liners…PIT. As far as I understand it, Paula Deen said the gawdawful N word 30 years ago during a stressful situation. And she does not remember for sure if she has said it since, but could be. Both of them Big f… Deals. And she wanted to have some kind of legitimate looking ante-bellum party, but changed her mind because it would not be PC. Big f… Deal. Now I have to credit her with honesty… She could have said…I never have uttered the N word in my whole lifetime. And just like many of the Southerners on this forum she could have said she shunned everyone of the slightest racial prejudice who even thought about uttering that terrible word. Happy Happy Happy. All turns out super hunky dory. Shows that honesty can be trampled upon. Best to just lie about things. And all of you idiots would probably believe all that crapola. ---
**Author:** ![ombre12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@ombre12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ombre12)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/451 "2013-07-12T01:38:53Z")
All I think it shows is that she should have hired the best PR guys possible and paid whatever it took to give a “good” impression to the easily swayed public. With all her millions, she could easily have afforded that. She went for the cheapie " I can wing this" and just be honest… Never trust honesty. Trust a good PR man. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/452 "2013-07-12T02:08:15Z")
[Posts #450 & 451 defined](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/clueless?s=t). ---
**Author:** ![ombre12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/d26b3c/32.png) [@ombre12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ombre12)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/453 "2013-07-12T16:18:06Z")
I just figured out what you were doing there. Good one. I love one liners. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/paula-deen/662049/454 "2013-07-12T16:46:25Z")
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