# Paul's Peace Plan Part II

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 1, 2004, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003 "2004-10-01T08:11:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
**Page:** 2

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/21 "2004-10-01T19:54:00Z")

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Paul, you should reread your big post just above mine. First off, you shouldn’t do #1, #2 and #3 in the first place, if it makes you say dumb things. You shouldn’t be defending ridiculous opinions you don’t really agree with. You shouldn’t be a different person on the boards than you are in person. Well, at least you shouldn’t be a complete jackass on the boards when you’re a decent, reasonable person in real life.

You may not give a crap if anyone who posts here respects you or values your opinion, but you should see that the way you’re posting is guaranteeing that nobody will.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/22 "2004-10-01T20:12:08Z")

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“Doc, I got a problem. My arm hurts whenever I do this.”

What should the doctor tell me to do?

“Doc, I got a problem. I look like a total fool whenever I do this.”

What should the doctor tell me to do?

There will be a test.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/23 "2004-10-01T20:28:17Z")

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**PF:** \*You should all understand that I frequently post on this board, 1. under the influence of alcohol, 2. very, very late at night, and 3. when I’m very, very pissed off about something. All three of these things sometimes result in things being said that I don’t really mean; grossly exaggerated statements about blowing people up, for example, that are more a result of momentary unhappiness with the state of the world than a genuine political outlook. Nonetheless, when something I say draws condemnation, it is my nature to fight for my position vigorously rather than concede defeat (not out of a sense of conviction in my position so much as the belief that opinions cannot be changed with any amount of condemnation.) \*

In other words, when you say something extravagantly stupid that you don’t really mean and wouldn’t have said if you were calm and sober, we all have to give it a pass or else your pride won’t let you back down from it. I see.

**Paul** , are you this high-maintenance in real life too? I mean, getting wasted and spewing some stupid stuff you don’t really mean is one thing. Lots of us have done that and showed up the next morning to explain that we were shitfaced and now we’re sorry. _Errare humanum est_ and all that jazz.

But saying that you’ll refuse to take back the stupid stuff you said unless everybody else refrains from condemning it as stupid… dude, that is a kind of privileged treatment for ignorance that **NOBODY** gets around here.

**PF:** \* I have my opinions, you have yours, and the two of them clashing with each other will result in no victory for either side.\*

When your “opinions” are merely stupid drunken ramblings that you didn’t even mean in the first place and are now only defending because your ego can’t tolerate admitting you were wrong… well, kid, you’re **half** right when you say there will be “no victory for either side”.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/24 "2004-10-01T20:41:50Z")

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> [@Ilsa\_Lund](#):
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> :rolleyes: What an astonishing plan. Rush it to the UN. They’ll welcome your unique insight.

Oh good grief. It’s a step up from “Now how do you know I didn’t mean **smart** neutron bombs dropped specifically on military targets?” and similarly evasive (uselessly so) maneuvres.

**Paul** , I would strongly recommend trying your next 100-200 posts sober.

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**Author:** ![Chimpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a9adbd/32.png) [@Chimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimpy)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/25 "2004-10-01T20:48:26Z")

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And this, children, is why you don’t do the Dope after doing the crack.

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**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/26 "2004-10-01T21:04:46Z")

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**Paul** , perhaps you should visit MPSIMS and talk about your tube sock collection or something.

Just a thought.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/27 "2004-10-01T21:29:52Z")

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> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#):
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> **Paul** , perhaps you should visit MPSIMS and talk about your tube sock collection or something.

Or something. Don’t want people thinking he’s a sock puppet. 😃

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 1, 2004, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/28 "2004-10-01T21:51:29Z")

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Jubus, kid, you’re one load your Momma shouldda swallowed.

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2004, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pauls-peace-plan-part-ii/267003/29 "2004-10-02T03:25:48Z")

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> [@PaulFitzroy](#):
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> You should all understand that I frequently post on this board, 1. under the influence of alcohol, 2. very, very late at night, and 3. when I’m very, very pissed off about something. All three of these things sometimes result in things being said that I don’t really mean; grossly exaggerated statements about blowing people up, for example, that are more a result of momentary unhappiness with the state of the world than a genuine political outlook. Nonetheless, when something I say draws condemnation, it is my nature to fight for my position vigorously rather than concede defeat (not out of a sense of conviction in my position so much as the belief that opinions cannot be changed with any amount of condemnation.) Will I admit that I was wrong about something? Maybe, but it will take more than everyone telling me that I was wrong to admit that I was wrong. I have my opinions, you have yours, and the two of them clashing with each other will result in no victory for either side. I do this to exercise my arguing skills and generally to see what happens. You can say that I “sound like an idiot” but I don’t care, I really don’t give a damn what I sound like as long as I can keep the ball of conversation rolling. You might think this is a very anti-social way of communication. That’s why it’s a good thing I limit it to this particular online forum.
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> I can guarantee one thing: if you were to run into me on the street of my hometown here, and have a chat with me, you would not recognize me at all. I am a very different guy in person versus in text.

Quit posting under the influence. Get a LiveJournal and post this crap under “your eyes only”, if you MUST type it out, or just write it up in Word or Notepad and save it to look at when you’ve sobered up.

We’ve banned more than one person who habitually posted under the influence.

This is not a proper Pit thread, so I’m closing it.

Lynn  
For the Straight Dope

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