# Pause my DVD player: "Still (B)" or "Still (P)"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [November 2, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890 "2013-11-02T00:08:42Z")\
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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890/1 "2013-11-02T00:08:42Z")

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Sometimes, the on-screen display shows one, sometimes the other. What’s the difference?

It’s a Panasonic, if that matters. Google was spectacularly unhelpful, but maybe I didn’t try hard enough.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890/2 "2013-11-02T01:11:01Z")

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Do the pictures look different in the two Still modes?

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**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890/3 "2013-11-02T01:44:31Z")

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AVI /MPG frames can be divided among 3 types :

```
I-Frame: Intra frame, also called keyframe. They have no reference frame and can be decoded on their own. They can be thought of a jpeg image.
P-Frame: Predicted frame. They are deduced from the previous frame (I or P) and cannot be built if the decoder has not decoded the previous frames.
B-Frame: They are decoded from the previous and next I-P frames.

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WAG: Its saying if the pause is showing a P frame or a B frame. Maybe you want to know if the quality is good. A predicted (extrapolated) frame sounds to be lower quality than an B frame, which is interpolated.

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**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890/4 "2013-11-02T12:31:23Z")

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> [@Isilder](#):
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> WAG: Its saying if the pause is showing a P frame or a B frame. Maybe you want to know if the quality is good. A predicted (extrapolated) frame sounds to be lower quality than an B frame, which is interpolated.

I would agree with your conclusion–it makes sense the player would be displaying frame type. Just to nitpick though, the B-frame is lowest quality frame. P-frames use references from previous frames, while B-frames use references from both previous and future frames. B-frames are the smallest in size and contain the least amount of data.

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**Post date:** [November 2, 2013, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pause-my-dvd-player-still-b-or-still-p/672890/5 "2013-11-02T12:59:24Z")

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> [@Isilder](#):
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> AVI /MPG frames can be divided among 3 types :
> 
> ```
> I-Frame: Intra frame, also called keyframe. They have no reference frame and can be decoded on their own. They can be thought of a jpeg image.
> P-Frame: Predicted frame. They are deduced from the previous frame (I or P) and cannot be built if the decoder has not decoded the previous frames.
> B-Frame: They are decoded from the previous and next I-P frames.
> 
> ```
> 
> WAG: Its saying if the pause is showing a P frame or a B frame. Maybe you want to know if the quality is good. A predicted (extrapolated) frame sounds to be lower quality than an B frame, which is interpolated.

Thanks for this interesting info, I knew about the frame concepts for those data streams, I just never thought of it as affecting a DVD before. :smack:

I’ll have to keep my eyes open during very still scenes and try to see if I can catch it ever saying “Still (I).”
