# PC Game Genres overdure for a resurgence

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [April 5, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009 "2010-04-05T13:01:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/41 "2010-04-10T01:44:05Z")

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I’d like a new SimCity game, too. I assume that Maxis is too busy making new The Sims content and swimming in Olympic-sized swimming pools full of money to bother, though.

Tropico 3 is a worthy diversion, but I’d call it a “town builder” rather than a city builder. Tracking every individual citizen really limits the size of a town before it begins to have severe logistical problems. I almost didn’t buy Tropico 3 because when I played the demo the construction times drove me up the wall. I’d be shouting at my Tropicans: “No! Don’t go to church, you asshole! You’re supposed to be building the new cannery!”. Fortunately, the instant-build cheat code makes the game playable (even though tracking individuals still diminishes the game). I want a _real_ city builder where I can build a metropolis of millions, not a town of hundreds.

Also, I think we’re about due for Elder Scrolls V.

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**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/42 "2010-04-10T07:42:42Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> Also, I think we’re about due for Elder Scrolls V.

I think you’ll find it’s been out for some time and is called _Fallout 3_ 😉

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/43 "2010-04-10T10:01:39Z")

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Humor.

Zork, Sorcerors Get All the Girls, Leisure Suit Larry, Toonstruck.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/44 "2010-04-10T11:51:02Z")

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One thing that, considering the popularity of the WH40K franchise in video games right now, and the relative success of the Bloodbowl game, isn’t even a pipe dream (OK, not \*totally \*a pipe dream) : a direct conversion of the tabletop game. No real time, no completely changing the rules like Chaos Gate did. Just pure Warhammer 40K, with online matches and maybe a single player campaign architecture similar to the Total War games.

Better yet : Necromunda. God that game was great…

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/45 "2010-04-10T14:04:50Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Humor.
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> Zork, Sorcerors Get All the Girls, Leisure Suit Larry, Toonstruck.

I loved Leisure Suit Larry. There have been a couple of LSL games fairly recently, but they weren’t the same at all; more like a collection of stupid semi-racy mini-games.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/46 "2010-04-10T18:39:10Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Better yet : Necromunda. God that game was great…

It was, the only problem was the line of sight rule. Every. Damn. Turn. There’d be a pissy argument about what a specific inch tall miniature could or could not see. A computer program could take care of that in a heartbeat.

Also the Archeotech Horde was WAY too nice, I’d like to see the Gang turf balanced a bit more.

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**Author:** ![drachillix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/48db29/32.png) [@drachillix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drachillix)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/47 "2010-04-11T19:00:50Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> What other PC Gaming genres do you think are long overdue for a resurgence?

I would love to see continued development and or expansion into more of an MMO type play for things like sins of a solar empire with hundreds of players and some rebalancing of the fighting so you can’t just swoop in and smoke a planet in 30 min. Make things like sieges and blockades a possibility, running repairs, capturing of space based assets. Sometimes I think I need to sit down and try to build a team to try and make such a game.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/48 "2010-04-11T19:27:41Z")

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I miss the 2D, sprite-based, point-and-click adventure game genre

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/49 "2010-04-11T19:35:12Z")

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> [@drachillix](#):
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> I would love to see continued development and or expansion into more of an MMO type play for things like sins of a solar empire with hundreds of players and some rebalancing of the fighting so you can’t just swoop in and smoke a planet in 30 min. Make things like sieges and blockades a possibility, running repairs, capturing of space based assets. Sometimes I think I need to sit down and try to build a team to try and make such a game.

It’s called Eve Online.

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**Author:** ![Max\_the\_Immortal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Max\_the\_Immortal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_the_Immortal)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/50 "2010-04-11T19:40:08Z")

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> [@Martini\_Enfield](#):
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> I think you’ll find it’s been out for some time and is called _Fallout 3_ 😉

No, I mean Elder Scrolls V. I have Fallout 3, I like Fallout 3, but I’m kinda done with Fallout 3.

[Dark Messiah](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Messiah_of_Might_and_Magic) is a pretty good first-person fantasy game, but it’s completely linear. I’m not aware of any sandbox-style first-person fantasy games newer than Oblivion, and Oblivion is pretty dated by now.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/51 "2018-11-05T22:19:08Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> I loved Leisure Suit Larry. There have been a couple of LSL games fairly recently, but they weren’t the same at all; more like a collection of stupid semi-racy mini-games.

[Larry is joining the 21[sup]st[/sup] Century and appears to be returning to his roots.](https://store.steampowered.com/app/765870/Leisure_Suit_Larry__Wet_Dreams_Dont_Dry/)

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**Author:** ![Jinks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d9b06d/32.png) [@Jinks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jinks)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/52 "2018-11-06T01:29:07Z")

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> [@MJinks](#):
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> I want to see some more strategy games that don’t rely on killing things. I have no moral issues towards violent games (I love them!) but I want to return to the awesomeness that was Theme Hospital or Theme Park. Or Sim Tower, Sim Farm.
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> I also really enjoyed Sim Copter. For those that don’t remember it was a game where you flew a helicopter in a city and responded to various emergencies. Rescue people from rooftops, put out fires, catch criminals, sort out traffic, transfer medical patients, etc. You could also upgrade your equipment/'copter. You were able to import your SimCity 2000 maps to play in. Imagine if you could play an updated Sim Copter using maps from SimCity4.
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> And I want a new X-Com game dammit. Don’t add anything. The new X-Com clones all try and add things to make it better. Just give me X-Com: UFO Defence with updated graphics and I’ll be a happy man.

Well we have now had a Theme Hospital remake which was pretty good (Two Point Hospital) and a couple of decent X-Com games.

Still waiting for someone to remake all the classic Maxis games. A couple of attempts have been made to recreate Sim Tower but they just don’t feel as fun. I worry that my standards have improved since I was a child, perhaps I’m slightly blinded by nostalgia…

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/53 "2018-11-06T02:55:51Z")

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Sim Earth was my favorite Maxis title back in the day. I know you can play it free on a website in browser form but I’d love a modern version of it.

With feathered dinosaurs of course.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/54 "2018-11-06T12:01:14Z")

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> [@Max\_the\_Immortal](#):
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> I’d like a new SimCity game, too. I assume that Maxis is too busy making new The Sims content and swimming in Olympic-sized swimming pools full of money to bother, though.
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> Tropico 3 is a worthy diversion, but I’d call it a “town builder” rather than a city builder. Tracking every individual citizen really limits the size of a town before it begins to have severe logistical problems.

Have you tried Cities:Skylines? With its extensive modding support, you can build really massive cities of pretty much any variety you can think of.

> [@MJinks](#):
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> I want to see some more strategy games that don’t rely on killing things. I have no moral issues towards violent games (I love them!) but I want to return to the awesomeness that was Theme Hospital or Theme Park. Or Sim Tower, Sim Farm.

What about games like Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Prison Architect or Airport CEO?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/55 "2018-11-06T14:14:28Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Have you tried Cities:Skylines? With its extensive modding support, you can build really massive cities of pretty much any variety you can think of.  
> What about games like Rimworld, Oxygen Not Included, Prison Architect or Airport CEO?

Note that those posts were made in 2010.

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**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/56 "2018-11-06T14:35:49Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Have you tried Cities:Skylines? With its extensive modding support, you can build really massive cities of pretty much any variety you can think of.

Funny, I just bought that last night. On sale right now, 79% off at Greenmangaming ($6.37). It’s awesome. I love that it can be as simple or as deep and complex as you want.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/57 "2018-11-06T15:16:59Z")

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> My second-favorites were those **Sierra** _-Quest_ series games.

I miss them too. I read an interesting article a long time ago that speculated that Adventure games of that ilk were so popular early on because they fit perfectly with the types of entertainment early adopters of PCs would enjoy (logic and puzzles are the kind of things Science and Engineering type people often enjoy) but when PCs became more mainstream they got overshadowed by more mainstream games.

With D&D having a renaissance, I would love to see updated Gold Box type games also. I would imagine something like that must be on drawing board.

I also hate how time waster but fun games like Bejeweled have all become “Freemium” Skinner traps. Would love to see a game where you buy the game and get to play it however long you want.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pc-game-genres-overdure-for-a-resurgence/535009/58 "2018-11-06T20:46:01Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> Note that those posts were made in 2010.

LOL. I didn’t look at the dates after the last couple of posts. I guess most of this thread got their wish by now!

Lot of advances in the “zombie” genre in that time as well.

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