# Peace demonstrations aren't a bad thing!!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-demonstrations-arent-a-bad-thing/87059>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 12, 2001, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-demonstrations-arent-a-bad-thing/87059 "2001-10-12T15:10:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2001, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-demonstrations-arent-a-bad-thing/87059/61 "2001-10-15T20:01:48Z")

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**Jodi? DJ?**

Could you hold off on this for a bit?

I’d appreciate your help over in GD. I have a couple of apparent college students who seem intent on condemning Christian beliefs because of apparent meaningless statements.

Thanks for any help you could be.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2001, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-demonstrations-arent-a-bad-thing/87059/62 "2001-10-15T20:09:29Z")

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**Polycarp** :

Seriously? If so, sure. Gotta link?

DaLovin’ Dj

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2001, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-demonstrations-arent-a-bad-thing/87059/63 "2001-10-15T22:12:53Z")

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There’s no need to hold off on it, POLY, we’re done anyway. He either sees my point or he doesn’t and he either agrees with it or he doesn’t. I think the answer to both of those is abundantly clear, so there’s little point in my continuing to attempt to pound a stake into his head, or he into mine.

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**Author:** ![dalovindj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/65b543/32.png) [@dalovindj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalovindj)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2001, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-demonstrations-arent-a-bad-thing/87059/64 "2001-10-16T20:59:27Z")

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**gobear** :

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> \*DalovinDJ, you can’t expect everyone to instantly understand the same things you do at the same level you do.

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And I don’t. In this case, however, **Jodi** admits she understands. It’s not a question of whether or not she gets it. She does. Then she says it’s “stupid” and “self-evidently bullshit”, while at the same time claiming to agree with the underlying sentiment. How can she claim it’s stupid and bullshit if she understands and agrees with the text? If she’s attacking the validity of the literary tools the author used, I feel she is way over in the wrong. If she’s just arguing for the sake of arguing (which I suspect), she is pretty lame. I would feel differently if she did not genuinely understand.

It’s like if I were to tell a kid that when you say “wood” it means from a tree. But when you say “would” it means something different. The kid understands and learns, but every time I say go get some fire-wood, just to be difficult, he says “That doesn’t make sense because I’m using the definition of would”. Even though the child understand and knows the intended meaning, they insist on bringing in another meaning just to be a pain. I fear that is similar to what is going on here.

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> _This argument is unharmonious and against the best spirit of Lao Tze._

Perhaps. I’ll answer with another quote. this time frome Shakespeare (He “august” enough for ya **Jodi**?):

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> \*If to do were as easy as to know what were good to  
> do, chapels had been churches and poor men’s  
> cottages princes’ palaces. It is a good divine that  
> follows his own instructions: I can easier teach  
> twenty what were good to be done, than be one of the  
> twenty to follow mine own teaching.
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> ~~Portia - **The Mercant of Venice** \*

DaLovin’ Dj

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