# Peace petition to sign **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 19, 2001, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687 "2001-09-19T22:44:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![curious\_george](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@curious\_george](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curious_george)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/1 "2001-09-19T22:44:24Z")
This is not one of those email hoaxes, and a noble cause: Dear friends and colleagues, Please sign the petition for peace (details below) that is now circulating among progressive circles. And forward this on to everyone you can. Peace PLEASE SIGN! In the aftermath of the ruthless attack on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, we implore the leaders of the United States to ensure that justice be served by protecting the innocent citizens of all nations. We beg that the President maintain the civil liberties of all U.S. residents, protect the human rights of all people at home and abroad, and guarantee that this attempted attack on the principles and freedoms of the United States will not succeed. We plead for a thorough investigation of the terrorist events before any retaliation. We call for PEACE and JUSTICE, not revenge. In Solidarity, The Undersigned TO SIGN: [http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/224622495](http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/224622495) The system centralizes signature collection to provide consolidated, useful reports for petition authors and targets. Please forward this email to others you believe share your concern. * * * Grassroots Globalization Network “Empowering People-Centered Sustainable Community Development” Address: 1175 G St., Suite C, Arcata, CA 95521 Phone: (707) 826-1798 / Fax: (419) 831-6775 E-mail: [ggn@earthisland.org](mailto:ggn@earthisland.org) / Surf: [http://www.earthisland.org/ggn](http://www.earthisland.org/ggn) ---
**Author:** ![halfrememberer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/779978/32.png) [@halfrememberer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/halfrememberer)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/2 "2001-09-19T23:53:18Z")
They had a peace parade last night that passed in front of my window. In the 70’s I would have been in that parade. Today I want revenge, but maybe in a couple of months I’ll be marching for peace again. Don’t forget to call us back to check every month or so. Opinions change over time. ---
**Author:** ![SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9fc348/32.png) [@SpaceGhostofArrakis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpaceGhostofArrakis)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2001, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/3 "2001-09-19T23:59:58Z")
ggggggggggooooooo awwwaaaaaayyy… ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/4 "2001-09-20T00:18:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SpaceGhostofArrakis \* > \*\*ggggggggggooooooo awwwaaaaaayyy… \*\* What exactly was it about the OP that you found so grossly objectionable? you are entitled not to agree, but it really didn’t strike me as egregious in any way. stoid ---
**Author:** ![curious\_george](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@curious\_george](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curious_george)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/5 "2001-09-20T16:11:00Z")
Some recent signatures today: 156,400 9:00 am PDT, Sep 20 CA US More lost lives will not solve the problem. We need a full and thorough investigation conducted with an open mind. We need to protect our country first and be aware that terrorism exists here as well as abroad. 156,399 9:00 am PDT, Sep 20 CA US There is no such a thing as ABSOLUTE JUSTICE. Hatred generates nothing other than hatred. No more killing innocent people! 156,398 9:00 am PDT, Sep 20 NY US Let’s avoid compounding an awful act with a humanitarian disaster. It’s great to see so much support for peace and justice. 156,397 9:00 am PDT, Sep 20 TX US Violence is not a solution. We have to find a peaceful solution for seeking the peace. ---
**Author:** ![Danimal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Danimal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danimal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/6 "2001-09-20T16:27:52Z")
Why is this called a peace petition when nothing in it asks for peace? ---
**Author:** ![curious\_george](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b487fb/32.png) [@curious\_george](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curious_george)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/7 "2001-09-20T20:47:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Danimal \* > Why is this called a peace petition when nothing in it asks for peace? “We call for PEACE and JUSTICE, not revenge”. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/8 "2001-09-20T21:06:31Z")
So you’re pleading with the administration to do just what they said they’re gonna do? ---
**Author:** ![Ross](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e274bd/32.png) [@Ross](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ross)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/9 "2001-09-20T21:16:14Z")
I received it moments before opening this thread. And I’m gonna sign it, too. I don’t usually sign them because they’re usually drivel, and I don’t like the idea of chain-letters, so chain e-mail doesn’t seem much better - occasionally I’ve returned them with snotty replies. But this whole situation is different. No-one among my friends is any more in favour of e-pteitions, but they’ve all signed it too. Because we have to do something. And it’s worth doing whatever you can. ---
**Author:** ![Milossarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Milossarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Milossarian)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/10 "2001-09-20T21:31:05Z")
I’m starting a petition to give noogies to the individual signers of the above petition. Anyone want to sign? “Don’t bother me with what they did. Don’t bother me with what they can do again. Just don’t harm anybody. Don’t violate anybody’s rights.” Sometimes, peace-at-all-costs isn’t the answer. This is one of those times. You can have all the peace you want, once the people you criticize eradicate the enemies of peace. Have fun with your cause, though. At least a lot of you have something to do now besides wait in line for Phish tickets. ---
**Author:** ![Danimal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bb73d2/32.png) [@Danimal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Danimal)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/11 "2001-09-20T21:58:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by curious george \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Danimal \* > > Why is this called a peace petition when nothing in it asks for peace? > > “We call for PEACE and JUSTICE, not revenge”. \*\* Oh dear me, you’re right. That line “We plead for a thorough investigation of the terrorist events before any retaliation” seemed to suggest retaliation should be made after the investigation. I didn’t realize it would be a peaceful retaliation. Or that whoever invented this piece of crap would be capable of imagining that we can bring the terrorists to justice peacefully. Somehow I doubt that bin Laden will peacefully step forward to be handcuffed. What a meaningless petition. ---
**Author:** ![Arden\_Ranger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b487fb/32.png) [@Arden\_Ranger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arden_Ranger)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/12 "2001-09-20T22:07:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Milossarian \* > **I’m starting a petition to give noogies to the individual signers of the above petition. Anyone want to sign?** ::Raises hand:: ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/13 "2001-09-20T22:31:17Z")
No, wait, people. We should all sign it. Think about it: Government reps have already said they plan to do these things. So if they do, we get to feel all smug and self-righteous because we _told them do it_. And if they screw up and don’t accomplish these goals, we _still_ get to be self-righteous and say “I told you so. If only you had listened to me.” It’s a win-win situation! ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_H](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a5b964/32.png) [@Bill\_H](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_H)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/14 "2001-09-20T23:00:55Z")
This chain letter is just as silly as the ones my 13 year old niece is kind enough to include me in, such as the recent **Dalai Lama Personality Test** (the name alone cracks me up), which includes the instruction: “Make a wish before starting the test!”. Of course, the first clue this was silly was your initial statement: > [@](#): > > This is not one of those email hoaxes, and a noble cause. The true mark of any UL FOAF MLM fluff. I’m only surprised you didn’t include lots of exclamation points in the subject. ---
**Author:** ![Random](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@Random](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Random)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2001, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/15 "2001-09-20T23:58:13Z")
If I sign, will you give me a “Visualize World Peace” bumper sticker for my car? ---
**Author:** ![CheapBastid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8baadc/32.png) [@CheapBastid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CheapBastid)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/16 "2001-09-21T00:15:36Z")
I was kinda afraid of opening this thread, then I opened it and found what I feared: > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by curious george \* > \*\*…we implore the leaders of the United States to ensure > > _ **snip** _ > > …and guarantee that this attempted attack on the principles and freedoms of the United States will not succeed.\*\* How can I sign something like this? I am all for the [Bomb them with Love](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=87907) thread, but this kind of useless language is too much for even me. ---
**Author:** ![Bluepony](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bluepony](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bluepony)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/17 "2001-09-21T00:57:01Z")
Hey, this is cool. I just got a new printer and I printed out the petition. I liked the way it looked on a new sheet of paper, the words were really bright and bold. Then I wiped my ass with it. ---
**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/18 "2001-09-21T01:10:26Z")
“and guarantee that this attempted attack on the principles and freedoms of the United States will not succeed.” Should be added: “Or double your money back!” ---
**Author:** ![MysterEcks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f475e1/32.png) [@MysterEcks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MysterEcks)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/19 "2001-09-21T04:21:37Z")
> [@](#): > > We call for PEACE and JUSTICE, not revenge. Why, justice is exactly what Bush wants–didn’t you hear him tonight? The terrorists will be brought to justice, or justice will be brought to the terrorists–something to that effect. I assume it’s their choice–they can surrender for trial, after all. I believe in peace at any price…and sometimes the price is killing the unpeaceful. ---
**Author:** ![OrganicMatter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/898d66/32.png) [@OrganicMatter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OrganicMatter)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2001, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687/20 "2001-09-21T04:40:21Z")
I don’t think the phrase “_attempted_ attack” stands up to the facts very well. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-petition-to-sign/82687.md?page=2)