# Peace, you are a worthless piece of shit, and a liar to boot. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 2, 2000, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694 "2000-12-02T06:16:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/81 "2000-12-11T02:17:58Z")
## Prima, I hope you are a lady\*. So, I oblige. If Reprise insists, I’ll add his line. P.S. Your word will suffice, I require no credentials. Neither by Reprise. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/82 "2000-12-11T03:11:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by reprise \* > \*\*our third favourite activity (after drinking and gambling) is cutting down tall poppies. > > \*\* I thought sex was third. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/83 "2000-12-11T03:20:31Z")
Are you telling me you feel certain with the expert answer you gave on palpating uteri, even after it cleared your rigorous self-debating mechanisms? If you would like to check my professional qualifications, such as they are, I would be happy to follow through. ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/84 "2000-12-11T03:34:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by peace \* > \*\*So, I oblige. If Reprise insists, I’ll add his line. \*\* Thanks peace, since you’re being so accommodating, I insist. BTW, **my** knowledge of uteri comes from direct experience - I happen to own one; hell, I’ve even used it for its intended purpose a few times. **I** am a female peace. **You** remain a **wanker**. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/85 "2000-12-11T03:40:02Z")
Am I the only who’s noticed peace’s writing skills seem to change drastically from post to post? Methinks said wanker is pretending on that issue also! ---
**Author:** ![kinoons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a698b9/32.png) [@kinoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kinoons)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/86 "2000-12-11T03:55:26Z")
I can, and am more than willing to, produce my New Mexico Emergency Medical Tech. Intermediate license, as well as my enrollment in the Paramedic program at the University of New Mexico’s School of Medicine: Emergency Medical Services Academy. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/87 "2000-12-11T04:11:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monty \* > \*\*Am I the only who’s noticed peace’s writing skills seem to change drastically from post to post? \*\* Indeed. I noticed it too. And it’s not simply from using unattributed quotes (which he has done). Very interesting … ---
**Author:** ![Primaflora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Primaflora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Primaflora)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/88 "2000-12-11T09:13:11Z")
> [@](#): > > ## \*Originally posted by peace \* \*_Prima, I hope you are a lady_. So, I oblige. If Reprise insists, I’ll add his line. > > P.S. Your word will suffice, I require no credentials. Neither by Reprise. \*\* Why do you care if I am a lady or not? My word about what? I like the quote I used better than the quote Reprise suggested. ---
**Author:** ![Major\_Feelgud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3be4f8/32.png) [@Major\_Feelgud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Major_Feelgud)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/89 "2000-12-11T09:19:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by peace \* > **Q:I have no medical training whatsoever, but for what it’s worth this is my unprofessional opinion** > I have no problem with this phrase whatsoever. I will incorporate it into my signature, so it will appear in all my posts. If you have any suggestions about any other disclaimers, let me know. I will waiw a day or two. \*\* How about: Worthless piece of shit, and a liar to boot? Just noticed the pun in there, how about that? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/90 "2000-12-11T09:26:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\* > As far as I’m concerned he’s a whiney misbegotten cretin challenged by an overwhelming and completely unreasonable endowement of utterly un-self-conscious hypocrisy maintained through either stupidity or pure idiocy. > > His nasty little attempts at running around the mods and slipping in sly yet moronic and baseless insults reveal an impoverished and shrivelled personality desperately in need of hours electroshock therapy. He is, in short, a stupid hypocritical crybaby and idjit who should fuck off. \*\* Anyone not think this is true now? ---
**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/91 "2000-12-11T19:47:39Z")
OK, I will incorporate the Primaflora line into my signature. I like it more then Reprise’s, it’s more to the point. After all, the signature can be changed later, if the teeming millions request. In all my respect, I have to decide against Major’s version, as I am afraid it will constitute personal insult and, therefore, overuled by the mods. I will, indeed, put in in my “Biography”. I asked Prima about the sex (gender) only because I have a weak spot for women. I know how to tell the sex difference in life, I have no idea of how to tell it on a MB, but then I am computer-uneducated in general (if you noticed from my other threads). Thank you for the complements (on English). I try. There is hope. Whoever wants to produce their credentials here is free to do so, of course. But: 1. I do not know how it can be done technically. Perhaps you do. 2. Perhaps, other SDopers will be impressed, not me. 3. Your credentials will not add anything to your correct statements but may make erroneus ones more embarrasing. Reprise, having a uterus has nothing to do with palpating one. I do not have one, but can palpate the uterus, if it is sufficiently enlarged. I am sure, that normal uterus cannot be palpated, in Korea, or Canada. You still did not abswer my question about an unidentified body found by police. You do not have to, I know that there is nothing amusing. But being such good manner, you shold accept the point. ---
**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/92 "2000-12-11T19:50:18Z")
It should read “good mannered” on the last line. ---
**Author:** ![reprise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea666f/32.png) [@reprise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/reprise)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2000, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/93 "2000-12-11T22:37:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by peace \* > \*\*You still did not abswer my question about an unidentified body found by police. You do not have to, I know that there is nothing amusing. But being such good manner, you shold accept the point. \*\* I’ll let the people with O&G training on this board address your statements re palpating uteri, and I’ll let my gynaecologist know your opinion that only an enlarged uterus can be palpated; I’m sure that this will be a revelation to him. No matter how much you or the various police forces through out the world want it to be so, it is simply **not** possible to determine the race of a person from hair or blood samples alone. Forensic science (there is no such thing as “forensics” - forensic is a word which loosely means “of the law”, thus the wigs worn in courts by barristers here are “forensic” wigs) uses broad and arbitrary categories for convenience. Forensic scientists extract concrete evidence, but the conclusions they draw from that evidence are a professional assessment of likelihoods and probabilities. It may well be that a certain type of hair is more **likely** to have come from a person of a certain ethnicity, or that a certain genetic anomaly is more common among people having certain other characteristics than people not having those characteristics, but a likelihood or probability - no matter how strong - is still not a **FACT**. If you want to start a thread about the usefulness of forensic science and its limitations, I’m sure that my son and some of the other scientists on the board wil be more than pleased to explain to the TM the differences between forensic science as portrayed in “Quincy, ME” and the application of forensic science in real life. The pit, however, is not the appropriate forum for such questions. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/94 "2000-12-12T00:20:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by reprise \* > \*\* > If you want to start a thread about the usefulness of forensic science and its limitations, I’m sure that my son and some of the other scientists on the board wil be more than pleased to explain to the TM the differences between forensic science as portrayed in “Quincy, ME” and the application of forensic science in real life. The pit, however, is not the appropriate forum for such questions. > \*\* [complete and total hijack] I would _love_ to see a thread like this. Can your son start one?[/complete and total hijack] ---
**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/95 "2000-12-12T01:00:28Z")
Reprise, I know that you personally will respect me more after firm NO from your gynecologist, but do me a favor: prominently post the response here. Next to her credentials. S/he does not have to palpate your sweet uterus or any uterus in order to answer the question, so maybe you can you call her or fax your question. TIA. You are absolutely right about the non-IDed body. I never said anything different. Hair sample alone can give police enough info about probable racial background. If they run ~10 blood markers (HLA types, blood groups/subgroups antigens, etc.), they may narrow the search to a specific community, e.g. African from East Coast/ South A., Nile valley, SEAsia, etc. The “circle” could be brought to 99.9% probality. Damn good! Nothing amusing. Ask your son what is known about “brain fingerprinting”. I do not know the possible name in Australia it is marketed under. I mean a new neuropsychological technic of EEG analysis using different brain stimuli, used experimentally to determine innocence/guilt of a pupative criminal. I am very interested. If you tell us that you have any info, I’d open a new thread. How is my new sig? ---
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/96 "2000-12-12T01:17:21Z")
> [@](#): > > determine innocence/guilt of a pupative criminal **Executioner:** “Okay mantis, say your prayers!” **Mantor:** “Oh god, tell my wife and larvae that I love them!” _thrown into giant bug zapper_ jb ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/97 "2000-12-12T04:24:33Z")
I want to know how he was able to commit those crimes _while encased in that cocoon!_ ---
**Author:** ![jb\_farley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9d8465/32.png) [@jb\_farley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jb_farley)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/98 "2000-12-12T04:28:04Z")
goes to show you, **Tom** - never trust a bug. Them bugs are wily sneaky mofos who’d shoot you in the back just to watch you die (and then later feed on your bloated carcass) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/99 "2000-12-12T12:20:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by peace \* > If they run ~10 blood markers (HLA types, blood groups/subgroups antigens, etc.), they may narrow the search to a specific community, e.g. African from East Coast/ South A., Nile valley, SEAsia, etc. The “circle” could be brought to 99.9% probality. Damn good! Nothing amusing. Peace, you’re a fucking bold bastard, I asked you for a motherfucking cite --the real thing not some handwaving-- for these bald faced claims multiple times. Nada FUCKING NADA. So SHUT THE FUCK UP OR BACK IT UP. Lying fucking Asshole. ---
**Author:** ![peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peace)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2000, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694/100 "2000-12-12T18:04:21Z")
Col, below are the links to some sites which show that HLA markers are different in different populations. It took me about 15’ to find them. I am sure that you can find more if you invest into the search as much resources as you invested in badmouthing me. Keep in mind that I am satisfied with my reputation in general. Making an impression on you or anyone else here will not bring me any additional benefits. Of course, I can make an occasional mistake, perhaps, in this case ~10 HLA markers will not result in exactly 99.9% probability, only in 99.1% :), but this is beyond the point. In the future, look for references yourself, you do not need spoonfeeding. [http://www.google.com/search?q=hla+markers&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=10&sa=N](http://www.google.com/search?q=hla+markers&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=10&sa=N) On the surface of many human cells is an inherited set of genetic markers called “human leukocyte antigens” (HLA). Like a fingerprint, no two persons’ set of HLA markers are exactly alike (except for identical twins). The T-cells use these HLA A primary goal of the IHWG(International Histocompatibility Working Group) is to create a searchable HLA database linking multiple interacting genes with function, ethnicity and disease. A more centralized database will make it easier for scientists to find and contribute new data. It also will help clinical investigators use the information as a platform for future research on immune-mediated diseases [http://unisci.com/stories/20003/0907001.htm](http://unisci.com/stories/20003/0907001.htm) A primary goal of the IHWG(International Histocompatibility Working Group) is to create a searchable HLA database linking multiple interacting genes with function, _ethnicity_ and disease. A more centralized database will make it easier for scientists to find and contribute new data. It also will help clinical investigators use the information as a platform for future research on immune mediated diseaseshttp://onhealth.webmd.com/conditions/news/webmd/item%2C103067.asp People with unusual tissue types have more difficulty in getting a matched kidney. Only 3% of black patients in The New England Journal of Medicine study received a matched kidney, _as most donors were white, and black patients tend to be more difficult to match for HLA markers_ [http://www.aegis.com/pubs/aidsline/1992/jan/M9210743.html](http://www.aegis.com/pubs/aidsline/1992/jan/M9210743.html) HLA disease association and protection in HIV infection among African Americans and Caucasians. Pathobiology. 1991;59(5):324-8. Unique Identifier : AIDSLINE MED/92000246 Cruse JM; Brackin MN; Lewis RE; Meeks W; Nolan R; Brackin B; University of Mississippi Medical Center, Jackson. Abstract: In a previous investigation, we demonstrated an increased progression of overt AIDS in the African American population compared to the Caucasian population as reflected _by the significantly lower absolute number of CD4+ lymphocytes detected in the African American population_ in an earlier study. The present study elucidates some of the possible genetic factors which may contribute to disease association or protection against HIV infection. The HLA phenotypes expressed as A, B, C, DR and DQw antigens were revealed by the Amos-modified typing procedure. NIH scoring was utilized to designate positive cells taking up trypan blue. A test of proportion equivalent to the chi 2 approximation was used to compare the disease population (n = 62; 38 African Americans, 24 Caucasians) to race-matched normal heterosexual local controls (323 African Americans, 412 Caucasians). Significant p values were corrected for the number of HLA antigens tested. HLA markers associated with possible protection from infection for African Americans were Cw4 and DRw6, whereas Caucasians expressed none. - Disease association markers present in the African American population were A31, B35, Cw6, Cw7, DR5, DR6, DRw11, DRw12, DQw6 and DQw7, whereas in the Caucasian population A28, Aw66, Aw48, Bw65, Bw70, Cw7, DRw10, DRw12, DQw6 and DQw7 were demonstrated.\* The highest phenotypic frequency for a disease association marker in the study was for HLA-DR5 (62.9%) in the HIV-infected African American population without Kaposi’s sarcoma compared to a frequency of 28.9% for the regional control group (p = 0.0012). We conclude that genetic factors do have a role in HIV infection since only 50-60% of those exposed to the AIDS virus will become infected. I know that you will probably say that I twisted the Internet to get these data, but at this point I do not care what you say. I give this info for other SDoppers more than for you, as I do not think that your mind is open wide enough to digest it. If, in the future, I find you remarks interesting, I might respond. If you continue badmouthing me and say, as you did “It ain’t true because we are all equal”, I have no interst. Do not constue what I just said as PI: I do believe that we are all equal, politically. It does not make all us equal biologically. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peace-you-are-a-worthless-piece-of-shit-and-a-liar-to-boot/43694.md?page=6)