# Peacemaker series **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\ **Created:** [January 15, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829 "2022-01-15T04:18:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2025, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/301 "2025-10-12T22:09:53Z")
Seemed like a pretty expedient way to immediately make you hate everyone in charge. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/302 "2025-10-13T19:21:33Z")
A thought occurs to me. I wonder if the Flagg we see in the finale is actually Clayface? It would explain the personality 180. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/303 "2025-10-13T19:25:25Z")
I thought of that, but why would he want a prison for metahumans, and have a grudge against Peacemaker? ---
**Author:** ![Meatwater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meatwater/32/20074_2.png) [@Meatwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meatwater)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2025, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/304 "2025-10-13T22:15:28Z")
I think Gunn mentioned it in the podcast that Flagg is unknowingly being manipulated by Lex since the deal he made with him and with putting him in with his crowd. They just needed to redirect his inherent anger at Chris to serve Lex’s larger goals is how I took it. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/305 "2025-10-14T10:36:10Z")
I think Flagg became irredeemable here. I hate the character now. ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/306 "2025-10-14T12:52:01Z")
> [@Meatwater](#): > > They just needed to redirect his inherent anger at Chris to serve Lex’s larger goals is how I took it. But he was right there while they were doing lines. > [@Quimby](#): > > I think Flagg became irredeemable here. I hate the character now. It was so much of a heel turn that it could not have been actually Flagg. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/307 "2025-10-14T13:27:30Z")
It wouldn’t make sense for a doppelganger to be so obsessed with Peacemaker though. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/308 "2025-10-14T13:42:07Z")
Creature Commandos spoiler: There is a slight chance Flagg is Clayface But I don’t think they will go in that direction. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/309 "2025-10-14T16:56:55Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Something that only just now occured to me: since the band Foxy Shazam is canon in the DCU, does that imply that Captain Marvel is present there and everyone knows his magic word? At the end of the second Shazam movie (post-credits scene), Captain Marvel (or whatever his name is) is approached by Harcourt and Economos to join their Justice whozit, but they decide he’s too freaking annoying and leave again. On a personal note, this is probably the best scene in the entire film. Which was not good at all, and a waste of a lot of talented actors. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/310 "2025-10-14T17:24:35Z")
Googling, here is that post-credits scene > **[Shazam Fury of the Gods - Post Credit Scene HD | Shazam Fury of the Gods | DCEU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=086L8kWI1hY%2F)** > > Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, t... ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/311 "2025-10-14T17:55:24Z")
That sucks, I liked the first Shazam movie. We were watching it shortly after _Avengers: Infinity War_ was released and this little kid behind us was over the moon excited to see Shazam. Until it got to the All is Lost moment right before the climax, you know, where it looked like Shazam was gonna lose. “Oh, no!” the kid wails. “First Thanos and now this! No superhero is ever going to win anything again!” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/312 "2025-10-14T18:07:59Z")
> [@Mollie\_Magill](#): > > It was so much of a heel turn that it could not have been actually Flagg. Why would we think he was a good guy to begin with? What has he done to earn that? He was nice to Harcourt, that’s it. Doesn’t mean he was ever a good guy. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/313 "2025-10-14T18:28:22Z")
I just started watching the second season. I was delighted to identify the woman with the rabbit ears who was rejected. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/314 "2025-10-15T14:49:07Z")
All during the season while watching the opening credits, I didn’t realize the singer for Foxy Shazam was a guy. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/315 "2025-10-15T16:10:14Z")
Something else about this finale is I could have lived my whole life without knowing there is a song called “Fucking my heart in the ass” but here we are. James Gunn often has great taste in his musical choices but sometimes…. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2025, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/316 "2025-10-15T16:18:07Z")
Oh, the music is almost universally terrible in this show, but that’s part of the charm, I think. > [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > All during the season while watching the opening credits, I didn’t realize the singer for Foxy Shazam was a guy. I can’t stand his voice, either. But it’s a catchy song and it does capture the tone of the show, so it’s been an earworm for a while. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/317 "2025-10-16T08:19:02Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Something else about this finale is I could have lived my whole life without knowing there is a song called “Fucking my heart in the ass” but here we are. Steel Panther are a parody band - sort of an R-rated hair metal Spinal Tap. They have some catchy tunes, though. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/318 "2025-10-16T10:13:41Z")
That makes sense now. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/319 "2025-10-16T13:56:38Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Steel Panther are a parody band - sort of an R-rated hair metal Spinal Tap. They have some catchy tunes, though. I figured something like that, but I’ve never heard of them. Pretty funny. I wonder if they have a lot of variety in their joke songs like Weird Al does. Otherwise, it would get dull soon. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/320 "2025-10-16T14:30:33Z")
They basically just do 1980s hair metal with funny, risqué, self-aware lyrics. If you’re into that kind of thing, you’ll like them. Here’s their romantic love ballad, “Community Property”: [https://www.youtube.com/](https://www.youtube.com/) watch?v=pC61stOcG44 (Link broken for obvious reasons). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829.md?page=17)