# Peacemaker series

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted, hbomax-wb-dc\
**Created:** [January 15, 2022, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829 "2022-01-15T04:18:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
**Page:** 17

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/321 "2025-10-16T14:49:47Z")

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OMG, for a one note joke song, that is hilarious.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/322 "2025-10-23T14:22:39Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> > [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> > It was so much of a heel turn that it could not have been actually Flagg.
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> Why would we think he was a good guy to begin with? What has he done to earn that? He was nice to Harcourt, that’s it. Doesn’t mean he was ever a good guy.

I’ve read and heard some interviews with James Gunn, and now understand a Flagg’s heel turn a bit better. Rick Flagg Sr.'s view regarding metahumans changed over the course of Creature Commandos and Superman.

In Creature Commandos:

> **Summary**
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> The Bride straight up murdered Princess Ilana out of revenge for her killing Nina. The assassination may have been endorsed by Waller, which I suspect is why Waller is no longer in charge of Argus.

In Superman:

> **Summary**
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> Hawkgirl killed President Ghurkos.

Between both those events and Peacemaker being responsible for his son’s death, I can understand how he would turn like that.

I still wonder about him laughing while Lex’s minions are snorting lines though.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peacemaker-series/957829/323 "2025-10-23T19:14:42Z")

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If he wants to be racist against meta humans that is one thing but being a callous asshole while people who work for you and you are responsible for are dying is another.

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