# Peanut butter and Jam?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 15, 2006, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823 "2006-08-15T13:59:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/81 "2006-08-16T14:21:18Z")

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A favourite snack in this house is maple syrup and bread. This has two versions, depending mostly on how hungry and/or lazy you are.

Version 1: Put syrup into a bowl. Grab a slice of soft bread. Dip into syrup, eat.

Version 2: Put syrup into a bowl. Grab a slice of soft bread. Spread peanut butter (100% peanuts, chunky) onto the bread. Dip into syrup, eat.

Actually version 2 has another variation to it, but it is rarely used. You have the option to toast the bread if you want. Usually done only if someone made toast, and then remembered that we had maple syrup in the house!

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/82 "2006-08-16T14:35:09Z")

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Mmmmm…peanut butter on hot toast. Better than it ought to be!

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/83 "2006-08-16T14:41:59Z")

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[QUOTE=chowder]  
**JJimm**

Methinks you err sirra!!

You are referring to “Fruity” brown which does indeed have tamarind.

It is thou who is wrong as wrong can be.

My original statement stands as is…Bacon and \*\* Spicey \*\*brown 🙂  
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Aren’t you guys talking about two different types of bacon? I believe what we in the U.S. call bacon you refer to more specifically as “streaky bacon” and is often smoke or maple cured.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/84 "2006-08-16T14:47:46Z")

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My baby girl calls it “Peanut Jelly and Sandwich,” and asks for them three meals a day.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/85 "2006-08-16T15:09:19Z")

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[QUOTE=sciurophobic]  
Aren’t you guys talking about two different types of bacon?  
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I believe they’re talking about varieties of _brown sauce_.

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/86 "2006-08-16T15:39:08Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
I believe they’re talking about varieties of _brown sauce_.  
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Now that I’ve checked their locations, I have to assume **Chowder** and **JJimm** are talking about the same type of bacon. But couldn’t it still be argued that American bacon is better suited for maple syrup, while English bacon goes better with brown sauce?

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/87 "2006-08-16T15:40:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya]  
\*\*“spread really thick - half-a-centimetre deep” \*\*  
C’mon, I thought you said _thick!_ It’s not vegemite, get some freaking PB on there! It is a well-known fact that fully one third of the thickness of a PB&J sammich is to be the PB & J.  
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Heeeeeeeee. God bless you, man.

Yes, the infamous **Rule Of Thirds**. As in art, PB&J sammiches are divided into the Divine Thirds. And of course, as the famouse PB&J fan Pythagorus stated in his **Laws Of Divine Consumption of Sammiches** ,

> [@](#):
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> Thus shall one obtain the properly gritty compote of mashed peanuts, an equal volume by visual inspection so as not to sully one’s verneir calipers of a suitable fruit-based spread.
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> Proceeding forthwith, one must then employ high Calculus, for one is compelled unless serving Open-Faced Sammiches, to divide the remaining third into two equal parts, these being the baked conveyances. A well-known Corded Ware family by the name of Strohmann is a purveyor of soft and spongy tasteless loafs known as “breads”. These are quite excellent and may be employed in the construct of the Sammich. This division of one third by two is known as “sammiching”. Examples of this mathematical principle are seen in the design of many of the finer delicatessens in the Fertile Crescent.
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> Hebrews have been known to spread the appropriate gritty compote of mashed peanuts and fruit-based spread onto slabs of the unleavened breads for which they are infamous. 😉

Just as a side note, it is indeed possible that our dear O.P.'er has been turned off because of the application of butter or margarine to the aforementioned bread slice product. Butter or margarine have no place at the table set by Peanut Butter and Jam and Bread.

Undoubtedly this could decay into an evil fight between the chunky pb/ whole fruit Polander/ 45-grain nut bread camp and the Wonder bread/ smooth Skippy/ Smucker’s camp.

One can but pray this does not come to pass. Here in the beautiful canopy, all can sit at the table and consume with equal pleasure.

Trays of bananas sliced lengthwise will be provided for those feeling adventurous.

😃

Cartooniverse

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/88 "2006-08-16T15:53:09Z")

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I am an American (just to rule out the European bias). I have had PB&J several times. Once, I was able to choke down half of a small sandwich. Otherwise, I just could not stand it. It is thoroughly unpalatable, at least to my palate. BLECCH!

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/89 "2006-08-16T16:18:58Z")

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😛  
[QUOTE=Captain Carrot]  
I am an American (just to rule out the European bias). I have had PB&J several times. Once, I was able to choke down half of a small sandwich. Otherwise, I just could not stand it. It is thoroughly unpalatable, at least to my palate. BLECCH!  
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Ahah! A kindred spirit 😃

**Cartooniverse** I have tried it with and without butter and verily it came to pass that both were cast into the fiery cauldrons of hell as being unfitting to cross the chasm known as my gob.Amen.

**Sciurophobic**

Yea and it came to pass that the American bacon was not tasted by this pilgrim, nay, nay and thrice nay. He partook of the Danish or the Irish, the English bacon being considred in the sages eyes as being fit for.. erm… pigs 😃

**JJimm**

And the poster doeth the lines and is repenteth of his error having sought and found that the spicey brown containeth many a fruity ingredient including the seed of the Tamarind.

The OP viewed with amazement the replies to his thread, his very flabber was gasted at the number of disciples and he was humbled

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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/90 "2006-08-16T17:13:01Z")

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OK: **chowder** , **One and Only Wanderers** , and **Captain Carrot** are obviously terrorists 😉

I had peanut butter on a flour tortilla for breakfast this morning. Mmmmm… I call it a Space Peanut Butter Sandwich, because supposedly astronauts on the space shuttles use tortillas instead of bread for sandwiches (bread produces too many crumbs, which are a problem in zero gravity).

> [@Alessan](#):
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> The best bread for a PB&J is challa - fresh challa, not the kind that comes in a bag.

Isn’t the challah too soft to properly spread the PB on? I prefer a harder bread, just because it is so hard to spread anything on challah properly. I guess it could work if you toasted the challah, or had one of those inferior kinds of challah that are not as soft and light as God intended challah to be.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/91 "2006-08-16T17:39:00Z")

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–starch glance-- The less time spent pondering your chasm-like gob, my dear **chowder** , the better off we shall all be.

Challah? Visigoths. The marbled rye baked by Liss’ Bakery in Philadelphia is recognized throughout the Tri-State area as the definitive bread-product to be used in creating The Meal.

Andlemmehearyasay Amen.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/92 "2006-08-16T17:44:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Anne Neville]  
OK: **chowder** , **One and Only Wanderers** , and **Captain Carrot** are obviously terrorists  
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Why do you guys hate peanut butter?

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/93 "2006-08-16T22:01:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Inigo Montoya]  
Why do you guys hate peanut butter?  
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I don’t, I love the stuff but not with jam/jelly…blech

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/94 "2006-08-16T23:17:32Z")

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Ahhhhhhh, now I see.

You eat your peanut butter with one of [these](http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/assets/product_images/230/719812212913.jpg) ?

😉

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**Author:** ![Nightingale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@Nightingale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightingale)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/95 "2006-08-16T23:41:29Z")

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Smuckers Natural PB for me, with _blackberry_jam, on twelve grain bread. Toasted or not, just be sure to have a large cold glass of milk handy.

And my 18 month old could care less about jelly of any flavor, but loves peanut butter on bread and asks for his “butter” at least twice a day.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/96 "2006-08-16T23:50:25Z")

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[QUOTE=teela brown]  
I respectfully disagree on the peanut butter part. I’ve been buying the organic, no preservative, no added fats or sugars type from Whole Foods or Trader Joe’s, and the difference is unbelievable. It tastes like PEANUTS, just like that, all in capital letters, and it makes a helluva PBJ.  
\<snip\>  
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I grew up on fresh ground PB ([Olde Tyme](http://www.pleasanthillgrain.com/nut_butter_machine.asp)). It’s the bestest ever. Mmmm. Thankfully, after my local store stopped carrying it, I discovered Whole Foods. There you can grind it yourself, which is fun and also guarantees warm PB (at least for a bit). It’s somewhere between smooth and chunky and it’s not as sweet as most peanut butters.  
_goes off to make sammich_

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/97 "2006-08-16T23:57:11Z")

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[QUOTE=sciurophobic]  
Now that I’ve checked their locations, I have to assume **Chowder** and **JJimm** are talking about the same type of bacon. But couldn’t it still be argued that American bacon is better suited for maple syrup, while English bacon goes better with brown sauce?  
[/QUOTE]

I see what you mean. Possibly. English bacon comes in several species - streaky, middle and back, each of which is available in smoked or unsmoked and there is also diversity of curing in the mix. Where English bacon differs most significantly from American bacon though, is that we generally do not cook it to the point of brittle crispness throughout; the ideal for most people is for the fat to be brown and becoming crispy, with the meat still flexible, perhaps juicy if you’re really lucky.

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**Author:** ![Pixiesnix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/898d66/32.png) [@Pixiesnix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pixiesnix)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2006, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/98 "2006-08-16T23:57:19Z")

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When I was visting my (now-ex) girlfriend in Canada, I request a PB&J for lunch. She looked at me like I had asked for grilled toad anus in warm spittle sauce.

“You want it for _lunch?!_” she asked, incredulous. I blinked, wondering if she expected me to wear the sandwich as a hat.

“Um…yes?”

“We just have it for breakfast here, never for lunch,” she said.

Now, I had labored under the impression that the great and mighty PB&J was the Ultimate Anytime Meal…perfect for breakfast, lunch, or supper if you’re in a hurry and/or you don’t feel like cooking.

Is this a Canadian thing, or is my ex just nuts?

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2006, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/99 "2006-08-17T11:47:27Z")

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Nuts? God. What would **you** call a gf who kept cooking grilled toad anus in warm spittle sauce for you ???

😃

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**Author:** ![chowder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@chowder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chowder)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2006, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/peanut-butter-and-jam/368823/100 "2006-08-17T13:34:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Cartooniverse]  
Nuts? God. What would **you** call a gf who kept cooking grilled toad anus in warm spittle sauce for you ???

😃  
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With or without spicy brown sauce?

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