# Pell-Mell, aw, hell

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share
**Created:** [August 12, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568 "2019-08-12T18:10:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/1 "2019-08-12T18:10:47Z")

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Some time ago, I confidently predicted Cardinal George Pell would not be criminally charged in Australia.

I can’t find the thread, but my best recollection is that at the time, the discussion was whether Pell had vicarious criminal liability for aiding abusers by means various. I said, stridently, that Pell would NOT be charged, much less convicted.

Since then, I had for unrelated reasons left regular posting here.

I checked back to the SDMB today for yet other unrelated reasons and found a PM reminding me of my failed prediction.

So, to be clear: yes, I failed utterly to correctly predict that outcome, and I was completely wrong. Those that predicted Pell’s arrest and conviction were right.

If someone can post the link to the original thread here, I will gladly repeat the above concession in the original thread.

Hope everyone’s well.

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### Author: ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/2 "2019-08-12T18:15:58Z")

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Welcome back.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/3 "2019-08-12T18:24:35Z")

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Welcome back. Your absence has been noticed.

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### Author: ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/4 "2019-08-12T18:26:07Z")

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Frankly, I assumed that your failed prediction was the cause for your retreat from the board. But good on you for owning your fault. Welcome back.

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### Author: ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/5 "2019-08-12T18:44:23Z")

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Who the hell are you and why is everybody pretending they are happy to see you back?

😉

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### Author: ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/6 "2019-08-12T18:45:58Z")

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Welcome back, and I hope you stick around.

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### Author: ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/7 "2019-08-12T18:49:03Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Who the hell are you and why is everybody pretending they are happy to see you back?
> 
> 😉

I hope I didn’t give the impression I was happy about it.

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### Author: ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/8 "2019-08-12T18:50:25Z")

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Is this it? [Oh poor George (Cardinal Pell)...might have been easier to come home! - The BBQ Pit - Straight Dope Message Board](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=784318)

And welcome back.

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### Author: ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/9 "2019-08-12T18:51:15Z")

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This post [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19147240&postcount=147](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19147240&postcount=147)  
says: “To that end, I say that the Royal Commission will NOT charge Cardinal Pell with a single criminal offense.”

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### Author: ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/10 "2019-08-12T19:07:10Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> Welcome back. Your absence has been noticed.

And commented on.

[Where’s Bricker?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=868000)

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### Author: ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/11 "2019-08-12T20:41:02Z")

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Welcome back, I have to admit that I missed you. But now I’m going to get back to being pissed off at your posts. 🙂

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### Author: ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/12 "2019-08-12T20:41:57Z")

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Good to see you **Bricker**. Now if we could only find [John Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=873914).

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### Author: ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)
#### Post date: [August 12, 2019, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/13 "2019-08-12T23:18:27Z")

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Welcome back. You have been missed. I hope everything is ok on your side.

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### Author: ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/14 "2019-08-13T00:23:00Z")

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I checked the original thread. Here is Bricker’s prediction.

> [@Oh poor George (Cardinal Pell)...might have been easier to come home!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-poor-george-cardinal-pell-might-have-been-easier-to-come-home/746315/150):
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> I disagree. I predict that Pell will not be criminally charged, period.
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> If I am right, and by, say, April 2018, no Australian criminal charges have been leveled against Pell, will you concede I understand this process better than you do?

And here are the charges being announced.

> [@Oh poor George (Cardinal Pell)...might have been easier to come home!](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oh-poor-george-cardinal-pell-might-have-been-easier-to-come-home/746315/383):
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> Updating this thread:
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> [George Pell: Cardinal committed to stand trial on multiple historical sexual assault charges](https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/cardinal-george-pell-to-stand-trial-on-historical-sex-assault-charges-20180501-p4zckv.html)

Did you catch the date on Past Tense’s post? May 1, 2018.

Hmmm. That’s… uncanny.

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### Author: ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/15 "2019-08-13T00:42:54Z")

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Welcome back, Bricker!

Thanks for this thread, we were wondering where you were. My theory was that you’d quit the internet, decided to try real life, walked into the local bar and never came out.  
But now that you’ve been _disbarred,_ you’re welcome here any time.

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### Author: ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/16 "2019-08-13T00:57:15Z")

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Eh, if I had a nickel for every failed prediction I made, I could buy a couple of fancy dinners.

Welcome back, Bricker hope you stick around.

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### Author: ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/17 "2019-08-13T12:34:33Z")

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Hey, **Bricker**! Good to see you again; hope you decide to stick around!

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### Author: ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/18 "2019-08-13T12:40:54Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Hope everyone’s well.

The usual mixed bag, but I likewise hope you and yours are well too.

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### Author: ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/19 "2019-08-13T16:29:35Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Welcome back. You have been missed. I hope everything is ok on your side.

What she said. It’s good to see you around these parts.

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### Author: ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)
#### Post date: [August 13, 2019, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pell-mell-aw-hell/838568/20 "2019-08-13T21:23:49Z")

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Glad to have you back!
