# Pelosi and Schumer say they'll pass legislation to end the shutdown. How? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [December 23, 2018, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591 "2018-12-23T22:54:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/281 "2019-01-04T18:23:57Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > … Voting against a qualified judge is quite an unscrupulous act of partisanship. … 45 Senate Dems voted against Justice Gorsuch. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/282 "2019-01-04T18:26:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Their vote was pretty much assured. Then why not hold one? Hint: You know why too. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/283 "2019-01-04T18:28:38Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > How? The GOp had a majority of the Senate. The Senate Judiciary committee had already said they wouldnt confirm a lame duck appointment. 10 months before the election is a pretty wide definition of “lame duck”. About what I expect from the party of “NO! (unless wealthy donors want us to say yes)” ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/284 "2019-01-04T18:29:06Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > 45 Senate Dems voted against Justice Gorsuch. Given his assiduous efforts to defend the Bush-era torture and mass surveillance policies, what makes you think he should be considered as qualified? ETA: Actually, I withdraw the question. I conceded that in your opinion, “conservative” is interchangable with “qualified.” ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/285 "2019-01-04T18:29:32Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I am not so sure Garland would have been voted down. Voting against a qualified judge is quite an unscrupulous act of partisanship. Maybe they could have cooked up something, but was there any dirt on Garland even close to 30 year old sex assault accusations? Anything like Bork’s pot smoking and hyper partisan Nixon enabling? Anything? > > Voting him down might have been viewed as naked, scandalous shenanigans. Nope, business as usual, the Dems did it too. In fact voting in a lame duck appointee was rare and unusual. > **[It Doesn’t Matter That Garland Didn’t Get a Hearing | National Review](https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/it-doesnt-matter-garland-didnt-get-hearing/)** > > On Democrats’ claims that Judge Gorsuch should be defeated because Republicans “stole” a seat that belonged to Merrick Garland. The only thing unusual was not having a hearing at all, but the GOp would never have voted Garland in. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/286 "2019-01-04T18:32:32Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > Given his assiduous efforts to defend the Bush-era torture and mass surveillance policies, what makes you think he should be considered as qualified? [The American Bar Association rated him “well-qualified”](https://www.americanbar.org/groups/committees/federal_judiciary/resources/supreme-court-nominations/neil_m_gorsuch/) ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/287 "2019-01-04T18:34:01Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Nope, business as usual, the Dems did it too. In fact voting in a lame duck appointee was rare and unusual. Okay, now you’re just making stuff up. Forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/288 "2019-01-04T18:35:13Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > [The American Bar Association rated him “well-qualified”](https://www.americanbar.org/groups/committees/federal_judiciary/resources/supreme-court-nominations/neil_m_gorsuch/) What did the ABA have to say about his support for torture? I mean, if the ABA went on record as saying “Man, this guy really saved our nation by seeking to strip civil rights from accused terrorists who shouldn’t have their day in court,” I’d really like to read that position from them. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/289 "2019-01-04T18:40:17Z")
This is far afield from the OP. Is there a reason I shouldn’t close it and send you guys to your corners to come back another day? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/290 "2019-01-04T18:41:51Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > What did the ABA have to say about his support for torture? … AFAIK, nothing. > [@Ravenman](#): > > … I mean, if the ABA went on record as saying “Man, this guy really saved our nation by seeking to strip civil rights from accused terrorists who shouldn’t have their day in court,” I’d really like to read that position from them. I don’t think the ABA is an organization well-suited for making qualitative evaluations about matters of national security. Not really their wheelhouse. What is in their wheelhouse is making (supposedly) non-partisan evaluations about judicial candidates, and in this case, they rated Justice Gorsuch as “well-qualified”, their highest rating. That may stick in your craw, but it doesn’t change the fact. ETA: apologies, just saw the moderation. I’ll drop it. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/291 "2019-01-04T18:43:30Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > This is far afield from the OP. Is there a reason I shouldn’t close it and send you guys to your corners to come back another day? Other than my willingness to drop it and get back to the matter at hand…? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/292 "2019-01-04T18:45:39Z")
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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/293 "2019-01-04T18:51:46Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > 45 Senate Dems voted against Justice Gorsuch. He was up for a stolen seat. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/294 "2019-01-04T18:57:51Z")
Individual-1 told Schumer he will keep the government shut down for months, even years. Including the Department of Homeland Security. What a dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591/295 "2019-01-04T19:06:09Z")
Yeah. Enough. Take a break. A new thread might do better than a stake one. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pelosi-and-schumer-say-theyll-pass-legislation-to-end-the-shutdown-how/826591.md?page=14)