# Pencil, ballpoint, rollerball, fountain?  Blue, black, or other?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [March 18, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795 "2008-03-18T16:58:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Absolute](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b2d939/32.png) [@Absolute](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Absolute)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/1 "2008-03-18T16:58:04Z")

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Pencil, mechanical pencil, rollerball, ballpoint, or fountain pen?

Blue, black, or red ink? Don’t say purple, damn it.

Fine, medium or heavy line?

#2 pencil, or something else?

Less than $5, less than $50, or more than $50?

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I’ll start - #2 mechanical pencil, less than $50 and a ballpoint, (barely) more than $50. Blue ink, generally.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/2 "2008-03-18T17:00:37Z")

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Wut?  
Usually a bic from a pack of lots at something pounds something pence.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/3 "2008-03-18T17:01:04Z")

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Pencil: 2.5 normal yellow wooden pencil.

Pen: Black ink, medium point; rollerball, though I’m not unwilling to use a ballpoint; expensive enough disposable to have an ergonomic grip.

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**Author:** ![3waygeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e95f7d/32.png) [@3waygeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3waygeek)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/4 "2008-03-18T17:05:29Z")

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Pentel 0.3 mm mechanical pencil I bought in 1981; Pentel stopped making 0.3 mm pencils sometime in the early 90s, so I guard mine with my life. Harder than hell to get lead for, but a single lead can last for weeks – last time I bought leads was about 5 years ago. I bought an entire box, so I should be set for life.

For pens, I use a super-fine point black Uniball rollerball, $9.50 for a box of 12.

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**Author:** ![3acresandatruck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/3/e79b87/32.png) [@3acresandatruck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/3acresandatruck)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/5 "2008-03-18T17:08:51Z")

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black 0.2mm rollerball (a few bucks for a box of 12), 0.5mm HB mechanical pencil (uhh, don’t remember, I’ve had it for 27 years), #2 wooden pencil (free; I got _thousands_ of half-used pencils from work about 30 years ago, they were throwing them away and I still have hundreds of them left)

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/6 "2008-03-18T17:14:30Z")

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Pen: The Paper-mate Write Bros. ballpoint stick pens that come 10 to a package. Red for grading, other colors (most commonly blue) for other things.

Pencil: Lately I’ve been using Bic Matic Grip pencils, 0.5 mm. For crossword puzzles, it’s gotta be 2B leads: they write dark and smooth on newsprint and erase easily.

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**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/7 "2008-03-18T17:16:03Z")

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Black ink, fine line, ballpoint. I’m partial to the Pilot EasyTouch at the moment.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/8 "2008-03-18T17:19:03Z")

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Depends on context. If working in the shop, #2 pencil. If drafting, an assortment ranging from 2H up to 6H. If drawing, 2B and 4B.

I used to use a thin nib calligraphy pen, black ink, but I haven’t seen it in years.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/9 "2008-03-18T17:20:21Z")

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Fountain pen. Levenger (Schaeffer) ‘Mediterranian’ (transparent blue) with a fine nib. About $100. I like to mix a little black ink in with blue ink so that I get a very dark blue.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/le_ministre_de_l_au-dela/32/12181_2.png) [@Le\_Ministre\_de\_l\_au-dela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Ministre_de_l_au-dela)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/10 "2008-03-18T17:24:24Z")

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Pencil - Staedtler-Mars mechanical pencil

Pen - Lamy 1.1 mm calligraphic nib fountain pen (under $50.) Brown ink. Makes the physical act of writing a pleasure.

For especially artistic writing, a peacock wing-feather, and home-made ink based on red wine.

I’ve also mucked around with lots of weird stuff, such as linguine, a syringe, twigs, etc. Anything that will hold ink for 2 seconds can be used, and sometimes the struggle with the medium is part of the calligraphy. And anything that leaves a mark on a page can be used for ink.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/11 "2008-03-18T17:37:45Z")

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Ballpint pen or mechanical pencil, fine point, blue or black ink. Cheap pens, a little more on pencils, still under $5 though.

My actual preference cycles between pen and pencil every couple years or so. I find calligraphy pens annoying for normal writing habits, so that’s a special occasion thing for me. I prefer mechanical pencils because the point never gets dull and I don’t have to sharpen it–0.5mm is the preferred size but apparently I’m in the minority because everytime I need a new one (or even just new leads) I mostly find 0.7mm.

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**Author:** ![tremorviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@tremorviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tremorviolet)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/12 "2008-03-18T17:57:36Z")

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Pencil for calcs - Pentel mechanical pencil with 0.9mm lead (I snap the skinny leads)

Pen for everything else - Pilot Precise V5 Rolling Ball, Extra Fine, in red ink

No idea what they cost, I get 'em at work.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/13 "2008-03-18T18:01:42Z")

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Anything cheap. I have the habit of chewing on pens. I don’t think I’ve ever had a pen that ran out of ink before I “consumed” it.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/14 "2008-03-18T18:08:00Z")

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Pencil - #2. Regular old pencil with an eraser on the end. Ticonderoga maybe?

Pen - ballpoint, blue, medium line. Can usually get a dozen for under $5. Prefer papermate.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/15 "2008-03-18T18:08:18Z")

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Lamy 2000 Extra Fine nib fountain pen, inked up with some variety of Noodler’s ink (currently Old Manhattan Black “bulletproof” fraud-proof ink) a nice flexy semi-hooded gold nib plated with platinum, fiberglass-reinforced nylon “Makrolon” body, piston fill mechanism, and the most unassuming looks of any fountain pen, it looks like an oversized Flair felt-tip marker when capped, it’s the epitome of “anti-bling”, and it writes like a dream

it’s off at Filofax getting fixed right now, so i’m currently using a Lamy Al-Star Extra Fine loaded with Noodler’s Baystate Blue ink

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/16 "2008-03-18T18:27:25Z")

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[QUOTE=tremorviolet]  
Pencil for calcs - Pentel mechanical pencil with 0.9mm lead (I snap the skinny leads)  
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I hear that. I use either a Bic or Pentel 0.7mm mechanical when I use a pencil.

My pen is usually a Pilot G2 (G4?) gel-ink, 0.5mm (or is it 0.3mm?)

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/17 "2008-03-18T18:54:28Z")

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When I was a newspaper reporter I quickly learned that a pencil is the only thing that will write under almost any circumstances. I’ll never forget covering a homicide scene with a ball point pen that kept freezing up every time it touched the paper. After that I kept no fewer than six #2 pencils and a pencil sharpener in my field bag. I still use a mechanical pencil more often than any kind of ink pen.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/18 "2008-03-18T19:03:37Z")

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Since I lost my Levenger Gotham Rollerball, I’ve been using gel retractable pens by [Tul](http://tul.com/), blue ink. I suppose the fact that everyone keeps stealing mine is a testament to how good they are.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/19 "2008-03-18T19:06:34Z")

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Pilot Precise V5 Rolling Ball – Extra Fine preferred, but in a pinch, Fine will do.

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**Post date:** [March 18, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pencil-ballpoint-rollerball-fountain-blue-black-or-other/441795/20 "2008-03-18T19:17:00Z")

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Pencil:

[Staedtler Mars drafting pencil](http://www.villagesupplies.net/staedtler_mars_draft_pencils.htm). I have all of them but my natural writing is incredibly small, so I prefer the 0.3. When I find them in stores, they’re between $5-10.

Pencil:

Hate ballpoints. I’m on a quest for the perfect fountain pen (my preference) that has a super-fine line without feeling scratchy.

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