# "Penii"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 8, 2006, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717 "2006-10-08T15:32:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/81 "2006-10-09T23:29:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
What’s the relevance of this comment?  
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Curiosity.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/82 "2006-10-09T23:36:24Z")

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Okay. [There are two plurals: _anuses_ and _ani_](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anus). I suppose you could also say another plural is _assholes_.

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**Author:** ![rayh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@rayh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayh)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2006, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/83 "2006-10-09T23:42:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
Okay. [There are two plurals: _anuses_ and _ani_](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anus). I suppose you could also say another plural is _assholes_.  
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A Latin word that essentially takes the -es ending, instead of the -i ending you would expect.

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**Author:** ![Excalibre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/898d66/32.png) [@Excalibre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Excalibre)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/84 "2006-10-10T00:31:21Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
Okay. [There are two plurals: _anuses_ and _ani_](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/anus). I suppose you could also say another plural is _assholes_.  
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Actually, the technically correct plural is “anodes”.

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/85 "2006-10-10T01:34:36Z")

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I love how these threads bring the jackasses out of the woodwork, and the peanut gallery like me to kibbitz on it.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/86 "2006-10-10T01:43:51Z")

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Every time I see something along this line (Latin words for body parts or functions), I find myself wondering if the Latin words, which are considered “more polite” than the Anglo-Saxon words, were actually polite words or “naughty” words in Latin.

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**Author:** ![St.Urho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8e7dd6/32.png) [@St.Urho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/St.Urho)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/87 "2006-10-10T02:15:02Z")

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[QUOTE=lno]  
I love how these threads bring the jackasses out of the woodwork, and the peanut gallery like me to kibbitz on it.  
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Jackasses, or jackassi?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/88 "2006-10-10T02:37:43Z")

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[QUOTE=St. Urho]  
Jackasses, or jackassi?  
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Jackasines

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/89 "2006-10-10T03:04:39Z")

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[QUOTE=Monty]  
Every time I see something along this line (Latin words for body parts or functions), I find myself wondering if the Latin words, which are considered “more polite” than the Anglo-Saxon words, were actually polite words or “naughty” words in Latin.  
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J.N. Adams’s book _The Latin Sexual Vocabulary_ answers this question in mind-numbing detail. The first sentence of chapter two reads “The basic obscenity for the male organ was _mentula_.” Other words include _verpa_, _virga_, _penis_, _cauda_, and a whole host of others.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/90 "2006-10-10T03:17:25Z")

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More on _penis_ from J.N. Adams — apparently it was an obscenity in Classical Latin, but a mild one. “At worst _penis_ was probably a risqué colloquialism of educated speech. Its lack of currency, at least in the later period, is shown by its failure to survive in the Romance languages…” (p 36)

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/91 "2006-10-10T08:29:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Excalibre]  
Actually, the technically correct plural is “anodes”.  
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So the genitive singular is “anodis”? There’s almost a pun there about a beautiful Greek youth, but it’s not quite working out.

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/92 "2006-10-10T13:37:33Z")

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You can avoid many grammatically nebulous areas by referring to (an octopus, a penis) as a “thingamabob.” (The plural of which, incidentally, is “thingamaboobies.”)

Oh, and I’ve always assumed “penii” was tongue in cheek.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/93 "2006-10-10T14:19:44Z")

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Naw, that’s french kissing.

~ d&r ~

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/94 "2006-10-10T14:45:54Z")

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Is the plural of _ibex_, by analogy with _index_, _ibices_?  
Is the plural of _ibis_, by analogy with _penis_, _ibes_?

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/95 "2006-10-10T15:10:40Z")

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Real question is, do octopi have penii?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/96 "2006-10-10T15:38:52Z")

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> Real question is, do octopi have penii?

Well, my understanding is that _octopodes_ don’t have _penes_, and _octopuses_ don’t have _penises_, so I’d guess that octopi don’t have penii, either.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/97 "2006-10-10T15:40:46Z")

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What I found really annoying in college was people who would say “syllabi” _in the singular_. Okay, fine you’re educated enough to make a Latin plural from _syllabus_ (even though in my personal opinion, better to stick to _syllabuses_). But now you think it’s so clever that you use it in all cases – “Be sure to pick up a syllabi.” Idiot.

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**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/98 "2006-10-10T15:50:24Z")

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[QUOTE=RedFury]  
Real question is, do octopi have penii?  
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[Hectocotyli](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hectocotylus)

(which puts an entirely new light on phallic-shaped tentacles in hentai) :eek:

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**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/99 "2006-10-10T16:32:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Q.E.D.]  
Yes, but _octopi_ is a proper Latin pluralization. _Penii_ is not. Using the word _octopi_ may be pretentious, but at least it’s correct.  
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You never cease to amaze me, Q. How much did you pay for the SDSAB tag again?

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2006, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penii/375717/100 "2006-10-10T17:06:31Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
…  
I guess it wasn’t as funny as I thought it would be…  
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Odd, that’s where I live and I haven’t seen you around.

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