# penis enlargment - cecil is wrong **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [July 15, 2002, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993 "2002-07-15T03:09:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pantone\_Swatchbook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@Pantone\_Swatchbook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantone_Swatchbook)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/1 "2002-07-15T03:09:39Z")
In an earlier article, Cecil claimed that it was impossible to enlarge one’s penis. He later ammended that by admitting that surgical procedures may add size to some people. Well, non-surgical penis enlargment IS possible through understanding two simple mechanics that govern penis size - increasing length by pulling/stretching the ligaments manually and increasing the girth by expanding the penile tissues internally through squeezes and pressure. Simply put, you grab your penis while flaccid and pull (or hang weights) and within 3 months, most people will see gains in length. This translates into real, usable erection lengths. To gain substantial length can take years, and some may plateau after adding 2 or 3 inches, but it is not impossible for a 6 inch penis to eventually become 10. The girth exercises are a bit more complicated, but involve various pressure exercises, such as trapping the blood in an erect penis at the base with one hand, while using the other to squeeze along the shaft. If anyone wants more details, or routines, I would be glad to go into detail for any aspect of penis enlargement. I myself started off with a meager 6.125 inch length, and a 4.75 inch girth. My goal is 10 inches length and 6 inches girth (this is an immensely large size, measure a paper towel roll for comparison). After 8 months of enlargement routines, I am currently hovering at the 7 inch mark in length, 5.125 in girth. This is one hour a day, 5 days a week. Some days, I add in shock sessions which last 2 or 3 hours, to break plateaus, when slow gains frustrate the hell out of me. Yes, this takes lots of time and dedication. But so does traditional weightlifting and working out. Good progress and results take time. I expect to reach my final goals within 6 years, but hopefully in 3 if I really apply myself and remain dedicated. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/2 "2002-07-15T03:39:34Z")
Great first post. Say, you didn’t use to be known as…nah! Couldn’t be. ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/3 "2002-07-15T07:20:51Z")
There once was a man named Pantone Swatchbook Who decided to enlarge his Mantone Matchbook One night pulling as he sang He accidently ripped off his wang That poor young (wo)man Pantone Swatchbook ---
**Author:** ![Achernar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@Achernar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achernar)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/4 "2002-07-15T07:48:56Z")
[Do penis enlargement devices actually work? 13-Nov-1981](http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a1_056.html) [Is it possible to straighten and lengthen the penis? 20-Oct-2000](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/001020.html) ---
**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/5 "2002-07-15T08:15:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pantone Swatchbook \* > **I myself started off with a meager 6.125 inch length, and a 4.75 inch girth. My goal is 10 inches length and 6 inches girth (this is an immensely large size, measure a paper towel roll for comparison). After 8 months of enlargement routines, I am currently hovering at the 7 inch mark in length, 5.125 in girth.** According to the second link that **Achernar** posted, “Afterward one commonly applies stretching devices or weights. Length gains of as much as two inches have been claimed, although one journal report states a range of 1.1 to 2.1 centimeters–in other words, a maximum of not quite seven-eighths of an inch.” I find it interesting that the poster is still within the numbers cited by Cecil. If you manage more than two inches, **Pantone Swatchbook** , be sure to come back and tell us, OK? **Tars** : Very funny, but I think re-using “Pantone Swatchbook” weakens it a bit. ---
**Author:** ![Pantone\_Swatchbook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@Pantone\_Swatchbook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantone_Swatchbook)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/6 "2002-07-15T17:50:50Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\*According to the second link that **Achernar** posted, “Afterward one commonly applies stretching devices or weights. Length gains of as much as two inches have been claimed, although one journal report states a range of 1.1 to 2.1 centimeters–in other words, a maximum of not quite seven-eighths of an inch.” > > I find it interesting that the poster is still within the numbers cited by Cecil. If you manage more than two inches, **Pantone Swatchbook** , be sure to come back and tell us, OK? > \*\* The main point I wanted to make was that penis enlargement surgery is unnecessary and dangerous, and that nonsurgical methods are proven to work effectively. Also keep in mind that there are ancient tribes in both Africa and India which have practiced stretching methods for centuries, and flaccid lengths of 18+ inches are not uncommon. The problem here is that they are essentially decorative, and can not become erect. A modern penis enlargement devotee will not have these problems because he will concentrate on both length and girth - and the girth exercises strengthen erections and maintain a healthy vascular condition in your genitals. Even a man who has no wish to enlarge his penis (yea right) can benefit greatly from the penis enlargement programs - longer duration of erections, which are both harder and more “veiny”, better circulation, and healthier prostate (due to kegels which are a necessary component of PE). I know, I know, I must sound like some soulless marketing rep for a shady company, but I assure I am sincere. So there isn’t a 1-2 inch limit imposed on penis length gains. The human body is flexible and modifiable. Skin, muscle, ligaments, even bone to a certain extent, can be molded and transformed given enough time and force applied. The penis is probably one of the easier body parts to enlarge due to its flexibility and the very nature of its tissues - it was designed from the start to inflate and grow with pressure. I’ve noticed that men outside of the PE community have a hard time discussing these issues. They usually make light humor out of the topic, or dismiss it altogether. Some may exhibit curious interest, but are stifled by embarrassment. Very few men will genuinely approach a PE’er and express a desire to enlarge his penis. Perhaps they don’t want to validate their inadequacy fears or maybe its just prudishness, who knows. But the fact is, even well endowed men do this. And almost ALL men have a desire to have a bigger cock. A bigger cock is not the most important thing in the world, nor will it make you more of a man. But it WILL make you a bigger-dicked man, and that, my friends, makes all the difference… ---
**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/7 "2002-07-15T21:14:34Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Wikkit \* > \*\* > **Tars** : Very funny, but I think re-using “Pantone Swatchbook” weakens it a bit. \*\* Well, how many rhymes for Swatchbook are there? And Swatchbook, do you have like a chart or photo documentation of your progress? You could set up a website, then when you reach your goal, write a book on the subject and cash in!!! (but i’m not sure i want more “veiny” erections.) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2002, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/8 "2002-07-15T22:04:33Z")
> [@](#): > > I know, I know, I must sound like some soulless marketing rep for a shady company, but I assure I am sincere. Naw, if you were trying to sell us something, you wouldn’t have given any details of the exercises until we paid up. As for the claim that all men want a larger penis, I would think that the more relevant preference would be that of a man’s partner. What if a woman thinks that her man’s penis is already too large? (Note: I am not speaking from experience, here.) ---
**Author:** ![Hemlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Hemlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hemlock)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/9 "2002-07-16T01:36:15Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pantone Swatchbook \* > \*\*…almost ALL men have a desire to have a bigger cock. … \*\* …If they are socially inadequate. For those of us who enjoy successful, fulfilling lives (including sex lives), it’s the last thing we think about. Don’t want to sound snotty or anything, but someone’s got to say it ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2002, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/10 "2002-07-16T10:39:03Z")
Cecil’s remark on the journal entry on obtained length increases by stretching is a little unclear, or I should say the journal is unclear. It reports a typical range of increase, but it doesn’t state if that is because of some physical limitation to greater increase, or just that after gaining from 1 to 2 inches the man is satisfied and quits trying for more. If the latter, then there’s some possibility that Swatchbook is correct. If the former, it should be mentioned what that limitation is. ---
**Author:** ![NovaWizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NovaWizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NovaWizard)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2002, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/11 "2002-07-17T22:31:09Z")
Pantone Swatchbook, ``` Unfortunately, at birth I was given the short end of the stick. Could you provide the specifics of the regimen that you follow? Is there a book or website that could provide additional information about the procedure that you have employed with such success? Please let me know. ``` ---
**Author:** ![hyjyljyj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/0ea827/32.png) [@hyjyljyj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hyjyljyj)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/12 "2002-07-18T00:21:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hemlock \* > \*\* > > …If they are socially inadequate. For those of us who enjoy successful, fulfilling lives (including sex lives), it’s the last thing we think about. > > Don’t want to sound snotty or anything, but someone’s got to say it \*\* Hear, hear. I ALREADY spend an inordinate percentage of my waking (and probably also sleeping) hours in a desperate daily struggle to achieve a slightly greater degree of comfort in arranging my genital apparatus within my trousers. These damn kiwis and cucumber are no picnic to pack, I tell you–and I’m not overly gifted in this area of anatomy by any stretch (if you’ll pardon the pun). As if I need MORE to contend with. Thanks, but no thanks! Next time you see some guy with his forearm buried in there up to his elbow, earnestly rooting around in there like he’s searching for his car keys, you’ll know what I mean. My wife’s extremely happy, so I’m happy, and that’s all that matters…Although I must say I admire the young man’s tenacity at sticking to a daily self-improvement program for so many years, even if it won’t improve his lot to anywhere near the degree he likely imagines it will. ---
**Author:** ![hawthorne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@hawthorne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawthorne)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2002, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/13 "2002-07-18T15:38:24Z")
Not that interested in the size thing myself, but I’d sure like to be able to hover. ---
**Author:** ![Pantone\_Swatchbook](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/cc9497/32.png) [@Pantone\_Swatchbook](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantone_Swatchbook)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/14 "2002-07-19T00:55:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by NovaWizard \* > \*\*Pantone Swatchbook, > > ``` > Unfortunately, at birth I was given the short end of the stick. Could you provide the specifics of the regimen that you follow? Is there a book or website that could provide additional information about the procedure that you have employed with such success? Please let me know. ** > > ``` A good resource is [peforums.net](http://peforums.net). It has everything you need to begin your journey into BigDickness, along with a very diverse and informative forum population. PS there are lots of pay sites out there. Don’t ever pay for PE knowledge, all information can be found for free. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2002, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/15 "2002-07-19T19:42:52Z")
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**Author:** ![zut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zut/32/2875_2.png) [@zut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zut)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/16 "2002-07-20T00:55:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pantone Swatchbook \* > I’ve noticed that men outside of the PE community have a hard time discussing these issues. They usually make light humor out of the topic, or dismiss it altogether… No offense intended, but I find the concept of an organized community of people pulling on their penises inherently funny. It’s a little hard to keep the tee-hee factor out of any discussion of penile elongation, so I suppose you’ll have to grin and bare it. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Pantone Swatchbook \* > Also keep in mind that there are ancient tribes in both Africa and India which have practiced stretching methods for centuries, and flaccid lengths of 18+ inches are not uncommon. Now this I’d _really_ like to see a cite on. ---
**Author:** ![Kid\_from\_Oz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/cdc98d/32.png) [@Kid\_from\_Oz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_from_Oz)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2002, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/17 "2002-07-22T18:16:19Z")
I am impressed! Good luck and best wishes to your endeavour. I sincerely hope that you find your life improved but admit that I would rather date with a small penis than stay at home stretching it. ---
**Author:** ![sugaree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@sugaree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sugaree)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2002, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/18 "2002-07-22T20:18:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \* > \*\*Well, how many rhymes for Swatchbook are there? \*\* latch hook? snatch look? batch took? patch cook? thatched nook? ---
**Author:** ![heresiarch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@heresiarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heresiarch)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/19 "2002-07-23T07:50:57Z")
Nah, that’s a short ‘a’ in swatch. Rhymes with crotch. ---
**Author:** ![NovaWizard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5fc32e/32.png) [@NovaWizard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NovaWizard)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993/20 "2002-07-23T10:46:20Z")
Pantone Swatchbook, ``` I'm not pulling your leg when I want to say thanks very much for the load of rock-solid information contained in the website that you provided. The long and the short of it is that armed with the right tools and equipment all comers can penetrate the mysteries of p.e. and eventually grow into full membership in this ever-expanding field. ``` [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-enlargment-cecil-is-wrong/118993.md?page=2)