# Penis size or Height- what matters more to women

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 30, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861 "2019-07-30T05:31:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/61 "2019-07-30T17:33:34Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I’m certain that he was being entirely serious and was not joking even in the slightest.
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> But on the subject of leading with your dick, isn’t that what surprise dick picks basically are? (And we know that _those_ are ever-so-beloved by women.)

Speaking of, I’m not yet ready to start dating again ; but when I hit that Tinder you can bet your arse I’m opening with [unsollicited Dik-dik pics](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ds4J42JsD7E/maxresdefault.jpg). I hear ladies are ALL about that these days.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/62 "2019-07-30T17:35:47Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> And also penises, like toes, just look weird at _any_ size. I can’t imagine any size of them looking better.

I forget which comedian said it, but I once heard flaccid cocks described as “looking like something hanging off the side of a shark’s mouth after its feast” ; and that’s been resonating with me ever since.

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**Author:** ![Hermitian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hermitian/32/470_2.png) [@Hermitian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hermitian)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/63 "2019-07-30T17:37:20Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> You’re telling me that, shortly after meeting a woman, you just unzip your pants and take out your penis?! 😕

You have to admit, that is WAY easier than the current social dating process.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/64 "2019-07-30T17:39:02Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> You’re wrong about toes. Just sayin:)

No really, have you even really _looked_ at toes? I mean, _looked_ at them?

Also, have you ever really looked at your _hands_, man?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/65 "2019-07-30T17:39:59Z")

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> [@Hermitian](#):
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> You have to admit, that is WAY easier than the current social dating process.

I know, right ? And so much more efficient, too ! You say “Hi !”, drop trou, put you hands on your hips, get clobbered and move on to the next. You can easily schedule 10, 20 dates per evening that way.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/66 "2019-07-30T17:41:52Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Speaking of, I’m not yet ready to start dating again ; but when I hit that Tinder you can bet your arse I’m opening with [unsollicited Dik-dik pics](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ds4J42JsD7E/maxresdefault.jpg).

**Kobal2** , you’ve got the most adorable dik-dik there that I’ve ever seen. I don’t care a hoot what size it is.

Oh, and add me to the list of women who have no particular preference about either height or penis size. Actually, in both categories I probably prefer “short to average” over “significantly above average”.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/67 "2019-07-30T17:45:05Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> **Kobal2** , you’ve got the most adorable dik-dik there that I’ve ever seen. I don’t care a hoot what size it is.
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> Oh, and add me to the list of women who have no particular preference about either height or penis size. Actually, in both categories I probably prefer “short to average” over “significantly above average”.

Aw, darn, I’m taller than average. ☹ (Not 6’4", though, that’s over the top. So to speak.)

And I honestly don’t know whether I have a long dick or not. It, er, varies.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/68 "2019-07-30T17:49:58Z")

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> [@Kimstu](#):
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> **Kobal2** , you’ve got the most adorable dik-dik there that I’ve ever seen. I don’t care a hoot what size it is.

[moving to phase 2]So how \*you \*doin’ ? [/mtp2]

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/69 "2019-07-30T17:54:04Z")

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Countdown to Pit relocation, but…lol. Btw, the OP may not be a long-surviving poster at the Dope at this rate.

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/70 "2019-07-30T17:59:46Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> Aw, darn, I’m taller than average. ☹

No problem, I make exceptions for the smart and funny ones.

See, OP, that’s another fundamental problem with your absurd poll question. Not only are there a lot of women who don’t even prefer tall men or long dicks over short ones in the first place, but also a lot of women who **do** have some kind of initial preference about male dimensions are perfectly happy to deprioritize that preference in favor of other qualities that are more important to them.

(As for your inference from your own experience that being short with a big dick is preferable to being tall with a small one, well duh, of course that’s what the women who go home with you are going to say, because they can tell it’s what you want to hear. It never ceases to amaze me how blithely some guys are willing to read _“She likes me because this particular characteristic of mine impressed her”_ for _“I’ll tell him how impressive his characteristic is because I like him”_.)

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**Author:** ![lingyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@lingyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lingyi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/71 "2019-07-30T18:03:15Z")

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Two questions I’m surprised haven’t been asked yet.

How did the debate the OP is referring to begin? 😕

and

5’4" woman with double D’s or 5’10" woman with double A’s? 😛

Edit: Yes, I know, the second question is just as stupid and demeaning as the Op’s.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/72 "2019-07-30T18:08:13Z")

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> [@lingyi](#):
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> 5’4" woman with double D’s or 5’10" woman with double A’s? 😛
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> Edit: Yes, I know, the second question is just as stupid and demeaning as the Op’s.

You know, I was just thinking that the OP’s question (and the whole issue of male dick size in general) is sort of a statement of how men actually _do_ seem to care inordinately about the size of their partners’ secondary sexual characteristics. The assume that women care about dick size because they care about breast size and are projecting their issues of size concern onto women.

God, my half of the species is shallow.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/73 "2019-07-30T18:08:37Z")

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Height and penis size may matter very much to some women but most men seem to have as distorted a view of what women tend to want as most women do for men. The average man and woman are both much less demanding than usually expected.

Penis size and bodybuilder-type muscles are two aspects which seem to obsess many men while being largely irrelevant to most women. That pressure comes mainly from other men and from each individual man. I would guess that for most women, height and penis size, beyond a modest minimum, either sit low on the priority list or don’t even make it on the list.

As for height, look at the men chosen by the most sought-after women like young rich famous talented great-looking female celebrities. They tend to be a little taller than average but not much. As just one example, look at Anne Hathaway. She could have married a 7-feet-tall basketball player if she’s wanted but she ended up marrying a man who’s about the same height as her and makes less money. You can find other examples. So, maybe, OP may have a distorted view of women’s typical priorities.

> [@Helena330](#):
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> 5’7" with a 4" penis is fine if he’s smart and makes me laugh.

Damn. ☹

Well, alright then; Where’s that saw?

> [@Helena330](#):
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> If it makes me laugh, no problem. He might not take too kindly to that, however. 😃

I’m pretty sure that’s covered by Rule 34.

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21825_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/74 "2019-07-30T18:18:40Z")

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I can honestly say I never once thought about the size of the penis of any guy I met or dated. However, I never felt comfortable when I dated really tall guys - it made me feel insignificant bordering on invisible. That’s the only reason height matters to me.

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**Author:** ![Mallard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Mallard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mallard)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/75 "2019-07-30T18:32:27Z")

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All men want a hot 22 year old blonde with big hooters. All women want men with a big…wallet. As long as that criteria is met, everyone’s happy.😉

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/76 "2019-07-30T18:32:49Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Fair enough. Am a bit surprised to see no one finding the smaller penis to be a disqualifying trait so far.

> [@shocky2002](#):
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> FYI I fully expect both to be a disqualifying trait to most women. This is just to test the waters on which would be less ‘bad’ if you will.

> [@shocky2002](#):
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> anyway, never thought I’d see the day where a woman would prefer 4 over 8.

Oh, good grief. You sure don’t know much about women, do you?

It ain’t the size, it’s what you can do with it. And with the rest of your body and mind, for that matter. If you think sex is all done with the penis, that’s a strong negative right there.

I have a moderate personal preference for short men; but height is nowhere near the major factor in attraction. Penis size is nowhere in the picture at all; though I suppose if I’d ever had direct experience with one large enough to be painful, that would have been a negative.

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**Author:** ![lingyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@lingyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lingyi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/77 "2019-07-30T18:49:33Z")

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I had two female friends, both petite Koreans tell me that their husbands were too big (length and girth) and it actually hurt sometimes. A co-worker (yeah, don’t know why women tell me these things!) said that her husband was so big that it caused damage to her uterus.

On the other hand, when I asked another friend if penis size mattered, she told me “Of course! So it doesn’t fall out when you’re on top!”

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/78 "2019-07-30T18:53:35Z")

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> [@lingyi](#):
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> A co-worker (yeah, don’t know why women tell me these things!) said that her husband was so big that it caused damage to her uterus.

He dilated her cervix and entered her uterus?!

I stopped at our local library the other day and asked if they had the new book about living with a smaller than average penis. She told me it wasn’t in yet. I left in tears.

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**Author:** ![shocky2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@shocky2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shocky2002)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/79 "2019-07-30T19:01:53Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> I can honestly say I never once thought about the size of the penis of any guy I met or dated. However, I never felt comfortable when I dated really tall guys - it made me feel insignificant bordering on invisible. That’s the only reason height matters to me.

Did you not think of any guys sizes because they were all near average? Maybe you would have thought about it had they been noticeably small or large 😕

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**Author:** ![shocky2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@shocky2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shocky2002)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/80 "2019-07-30T19:12:02Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Oh, good grief. You sure don’t know much about women, do you?
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> It ain’t the size, it’s what you can do with it. And with the rest of your body and mind, for that matter. If you think sex is all done with the penis, that’s a strong negative right there.
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> I have a moderate personal preference for short men; but height is nowhere near the major factor in attraction. Penis size is nowhere in the picture at all; though I suppose if I’d ever had direct experience with one large enough to be painful, that would have been a negative.

Again its odd to me that so far no woman has expressed a preference for tall and/or well endowed men. There should at least be several to balance out the ones who dont prefer tall and hung.

Maybe its an age thing? I get the sense that most of yall are much older than me… as a millennial i can say that girls my age are obsessed with this stuff

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