# Penis size or Height- what matters more to women

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 30, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861 "2019-07-30T05:31:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/81 "2019-07-30T19:16:49Z")

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Nm

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/82 "2019-07-30T19:19:49Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Maybe its an age thing? I get the sense that most of yall are much older than me… as a millennial i can say that girls my age are obsessed with this stuff

What elements have lead you to that conclusion? People talking about it online when you specifically sought out people emphasizing them?

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/83 "2019-07-30T19:21:28Z")

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> [@Helena330](#):
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> No, she took the guy that’s 5’7" because she doesn’t like tall guys. The penis was irrelevant. Really, insecure men think penis size is more important to women than it is.

Wait… can’t I be insecure about my height? I’m fine with my penis size. I’m about 5’9". It’d be better for me if women were more concerned about penis size than height.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/84 "2019-07-30T19:26:24Z")

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When I was much younger, I might have gone for the larger penis size. (I’m not sure, however. 6’4": I would be nice to be tall.)  
However, after years of reports and studies indicating the a long penis is not that important to women, I would probably still opt for height over penis length. (Girth might have been a different issue, but I have never seen reliable information regarding what is considered a good size.)

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/85 "2019-07-30T19:26:42Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Did you not think of any guys sizes because they were all near average? Maybe you would have thought about it had they been noticeably small or large

Nope.

I once had a friend comment on the large penis size of somebody we’d both been with. I hadn’t noticed.

I think she had because it interfered with her diaphragm (I was using a different method).

As far as height, I’ve gone with quite short and quite tall men, as well as some in the middle. It’s mildly annoying to have to stretch to kiss the tall ones; but not anywhere near annoying enough to outweigh other factors.

> [@shocky2002](#):
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> girls my age are obsessed with this stuff

Cite, please?

I’ve run into men who seemed obsessed with it. I’ve run into women who had some preference, but not enough to outweigh other factors. Why do you think physical size would outweigh other factors?

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/86 "2019-07-30T19:27:40Z")

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Take it from someone older and wiser (;)) than you. You will out grow this weirdness. Grown women ain’t walking around looking at crotches.  
Look up, dude, my eyes are up here. I’m a 6ft. tall woman, of course I wanted a tall or taller mate. Penis size was NEVER an issue.  
You’re being fooled into thinking your endowment matters to a potential lover. If you’re leading with your oh, so large penis you may get yourself into trouble.  
I have children who are millenials and I could possibly be the age of your Mother. My advice: go ask her what she thinks of your theories. (Psst! You’re not gonna like her answer)

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/87 "2019-07-30T19:41:10Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Again its odd to me that so far no woman has expressed a preference for tall and/or well endowed men. There should at least be several to balance out the ones who dont prefer tall and hung.

Alternatively: it might just be a dumb question.

It might be nice to simply lie back and imagine one’s “perfect” date/spouse/whatever, but in the real world that is not how people generally meet,  
_[Craigslist, looking for person with the following physical characteristics.  
height,  
weight,  
BMI,  
genitalia length,  
width,  
weight,  
percentage of skull (still) covered by hair,  
percentage of back covered by hair,  
etc. . . .]_  
Given the unrealistic nature of the question, the real question becomes “Why should anyone care?”

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**Author:** ![tim-n-va](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tim-n-va/32/3001_2.png) [@tim-n-va](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tim-n-va)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/88 "2019-07-30T19:58:46Z")

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My theory is that women don’t care about penis size because they are too worried if their breasts are big enough.

Plus or minus one-third of the average would probably not be disqualifying if all other factors were acceptable.

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**Author:** ![lingyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@lingyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lingyi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/89 "2019-07-30T20:09:28Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Again its odd to me that so far no woman has expressed a preference for tall and/or well endowed men. There should at least be several to balance out the ones who dont prefer tall and hung.
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> Maybe its an age thing? I get the sense that most of yall are much older than me… as a millennial i can say that girls my age are obsessed with this stuff

The OP is basing his/her comment on what’s said in porn! :smack:

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**Author:** ![lingyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@lingyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lingyi)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/90 "2019-07-30T20:10:42Z")

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@ the OP.

You still haven’t posted, how/why the debate started and what the context of the debate was.

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**Author:** ![shocky2002](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@shocky2002](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shocky2002)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/91 "2019-07-30T20:19:03Z")

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> [@lingyi](#):
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> @ the OP.
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> You still haven’t posted, how/why the debate started and what the context of the debate was.

Ok. I come from a forum full of guys who complain of women and their standards in dating, especially regarding height. Someone asked whether itd be better to be short and hung or tall/small and that sparked a debate.

> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Take it from someone older and wiser (;)) than you. You will out grow this weirdness. Grown women ain’t walking around looking at crotches.  
> Look up, dude, my eyes are up here. I’m a 6ft. tall woman, of course I wanted a tall or taller mate. Penis size was NEVER an issue.  
> You’re being fooled into thinking your endowment matters to a potential lover. If you’re leading with your oh, so large penis you may get yourself into trouble.  
> I have children who are millenials and I could possibly be the age of your Mother. My advice: go ask her what she thinks of your theories. (Psst! You’re not gonna like her answer)

Thats great. I love tall women haha. Its also nice you dont care much for size

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Cite, please?
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> I’ve run into men who seemed obsessed with it. I’ve run into women who had some preference, but not enough to outweigh other factors. Why do you think physical size would outweigh other factors?

Tinder women lol they straight up list their ‘requirements’ if you will

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/92 "2019-07-30T20:22:26Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> If you’re leading with your oh, so large penis you may get yourself into trouble.

Agreed. First of all, beware slamming doors.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/93 "2019-07-30T20:33:45Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> As far as height, I’ve gone with quite short and quite tall men, as well as some in the middle. It’s mildly annoying to have to stretch to kiss the tall ones; but not anywhere near annoying enough to outweigh other factors.

As a 6’1" man, I’ve worried the fact that I’ve stood at a head taller than some of the women I’ve dated. It feels like something’s wrong when you want them to stand on a stepstool when kissing.

Now that my fears have been confirmed, I will become neurotic now.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/94 "2019-07-30T20:49:15Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Ok. I come from a forum full of guys who complain of women and their standards in dating, especially regarding height. Someone asked whether itd be better to be short and hung or tall/small and that sparked a debate.

“Standards in dating”? Do tell.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/95 "2019-07-30T20:53:36Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Fair enough. Am a bit surprised to see no one finding the smaller penis to be a disqualifying trait so far.

Understand this truth about penis:

Anything at all about a penis matters far, far, far more to men than it ever will to women. It’s not that women are opposed to penis\*, it’s just not as important to us as it is to you.

This, by the way, is why sending dick picks to women is unlikely to get you a date. It’s like trying to get someone to buy a car by sending an unsolicited picture of the inside of the car’s crankcase as the first thing. It’s not that no one cares about the crankcase - it’s important and we’d like a functional crankcase - but that’s nowhere near the first thing that attracts someone to a car. The assumption is that, until otherwise mentioned, the crankcase works just fine so there’s really no reason to point it out. There are so many other features a prospective buyer will want to examine and evaluate first, before she ever gets to the crankcase, that you really should pay more attention to those other things. I mean, really, who pays attention to how big the crankcase on their car is or isn’t? Does it work? Yes? Then who cares.

- OK, there are a few women opposed to them, but since they don’t spend a lot of time around men, given a choice, and don’t date men, I’m pretty sure the OP’s question is not addressed to them so I’m assuming we don’t have to take that small subset of women into account in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/96 "2019-07-30T21:02:01Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> FYI I fully expect both to be a disqualifying trait to most women. This is just to test the waters on which would be less ‘bad’ if you will.

Oh, by the way - there are already several threads regarding how women view men’s height. You might try searching for them if you want more amazing information on how women care less about these things than men do.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/97 "2019-07-30T21:09:27Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Your dick is so big you can pick people up with it?

There was a side-show performer with the Jim Rose Circus who went by the name Mr. Lifto that I can’t link to directly without violating forum rules but… yeah, it’s about a guy who lifts heavy things with his penis.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/98 "2019-07-30T21:14:45Z")

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> [@lingyi](#):
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> I had two female friends, both petite Koreans tell me that their husbands were too big (length and girth) and it actually hurt sometimes. A co-worker (yeah, don’t know why women tell me these things!) said that her husband was so big that it caused damage to her uterus.
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> On the other hand, when I asked another friend if penis size mattered, she told me “Of course! So it doesn’t fall out when you’re on top!”

That brings up something else that the OP has not considered- women come in different sizes as well- what’s just right for one woman may seem like a Pringles can to another, or a chapstick to a third.

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**Author:** ![MichaelEmouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michaelemouse/32/101_2.png) [@MichaelEmouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MichaelEmouse)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/99 "2019-07-30T21:21:20Z")

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> [@shocky2002](#):
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> Ok. I come from a forum full of guys who complain of women and their standards in dating, especially regarding height. Someone asked whether itd be better to be short and hung or tall/small and that sparked a debate.

A group of men online who complain about women and the fact that they’re not getting the results they want out of dating and ascribe their dissatisfaction to something they can’t fix (e.g.:height, penis size) rather than something they can but which is unpleasant and difficult to change (e.g.:attitude, personality, habits). “If I don’t have the dating life I wish I had, it’s because women won’t even consider men who aren’t tall and don’t have large genitalia”, is that the summary of their complaint? Although it may be accurate in a small percentage of cases, I’d be wary of taking that complaint and explanation at face value

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2019, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/penis-size-or-height-what-matters-more-to-women/837861/100 "2019-07-30T21:28:55Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> There was a side-show performer with the Jim Rose Circus who went by the name Mr. Lifto that I can’t link to directly without violating forum rules but… yeah, it’s about a guy who lifts heavy things with his penis.

There’s a pharma industry story - recounted as true - that in some clinical studies of Viagra, one of the variables measured was (ahem) weight lifting ability.

All I said was “recounted as true”…

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