# Pennsylvania Lt. Gov crashes military funeral, criticizes war **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 25, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044 "2005-07-25T13:33:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/1 "2005-07-25T13:33:40Z")
[Link](http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05204/542520.stm) Now, I would hope that someone well-versed in politics as to be Lt. Gov would not be so undiplomatic as to tell a grieving family member of a slain Marine that “our government is against this war” _at the funeral_ but one of the family members claims to still have the business card that she was passing out. This makes me believe if she did one, she may have also said the other. Any more info about this? Is Knoll really that dense? Exactly what did she think she would accomplish? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/2 "2005-07-25T14:18:24Z")
Well, if she made the political statement, then she was insensitive and stupid. But i don’t know why there’s any necessary connection between that and the handing out of a business card. As the PA Governenr said in [this article](http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/regional/s_356712.html): > [@](#): > > He believes Knoll gave her business card to a family member so that Goodrich’s family would have a contact within state government if they later needed help securing benefits. I don’t think that’s an unreasonable explanation. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/3 "2005-07-25T14:23:52Z")
At a funeral? Granted, I don’t know the context, but the Goodrich family member didn’t mention that Knoll gave out the business card in the sense of “if you need any help call me.” And why mention the opposition to the war? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/4 "2005-07-25T14:43:34Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > At a funeral? Granted, I don’t know the context, but the Goodrich family member didn’t mention that Knoll gave out the business card in the sense of “if you need any help call me.” Doesn’t mean it’s an implausible explanation. I passed no judgement on whether it was actually what happened, only that the explanation seemed reasonable, and that i don’t think there’s any necessary connection between handing out the card and talking about opposition to the war. > [@ivylass](#): > > And why mention the opposition to the war? Well, i’ve already said in response to your OP that i think mentioning the opposition to the war was “insensitive and stupid.” Your asking the same question again isn’t going to elicit a different response from me. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/5 "2005-07-25T17:26:47Z")
I didn’t know this thread was open, and it seemed a GD item anyway. [GD thread, same topic.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=327128) ---
**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/6 "2005-07-25T19:27:34Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Is Knoll really that dense? Knoll’s acted oddly since becoming Lt. Gov (for example, calling Ed Rendell Edward G. Robinson). [This article](http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05122/497704.stm) mentions some of it (scroll down), as well as rumors that she will be dumped by Rendell. ---
**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/7 "2005-07-25T19:52:36Z")
_sigh_. Why are so many Democrats doing stupid things at a time when so many Republican shenanigans are geting publicity. Listen you idiots. Stay home, shut up, and let the media lynching of the republicans continue. Sheesh. Another one I don’t want on my side. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/8 "2005-07-25T20:18:26Z")
[She’s apologized](http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/news/4765490/detail.html), although I found this > [@](#): > > The fact that you have been offended deserves and receives my most profound apology a bit convoluted. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/9 "2005-07-25T22:23:36Z")
> [@Governor Quinn](#): > > Knoll’s acted oddly since becoming Lt. Gov (for example, calling Ed Rendell Edward G. Robinson). [This article](http://www.postgazette.com/pg/05122/497704.stm) mentions some of it (scroll down), as well as rumors that she will be dumped by Rendell. With any luck we’ll dump Rendell while we’re at it. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/10 "2005-07-25T22:55:21Z")
Who do you want instead of Rendell? ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/11 "2005-07-25T22:58:46Z")
> [@](#): > > The fact that you have been offended deserves and receives my most profound apology Isn’t that more or less the same thing as “I’m sorry you got upset when I called you an idiot.” ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2005, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/12 "2005-07-25T23:02:39Z")
I was trying to figure that out myself. Is it a non-apology apology, “I’m sorry that you were offended?” Or is it just a badly written attempt at a sincere apology for upsetting someone? ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/13 "2005-07-26T00:35:49Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Who do you want instead of Rendell? Someone who won’t raise my taxes, sign off on massive pay raises for legislators, concieve of gambling as the solution to the taxes that he himself has caused to raise, and most importantly cares about somewhere other than Philadelphia. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2005, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-lt-gov-crashes-military-funeral-criticizes-war/314044/14 "2005-07-26T03:15:00Z")
Hearing the story on NPR this morning made me cringe at being a resident of PA. :shaking head smiley: What an idjit.