# Pennsylvania Primary - Let's get this party started! **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 22, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461 "2008-04-22T21:49:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ZebraShaSha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/eada6e/32.png) [@ZebraShaSha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZebraShaSha)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/21 "2008-04-23T01:00:28Z")
[QUOTE=jtgain] ABC calls PA for Clinton per Drudge.. [/QUOTE] But what about reliable news sources? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/22 "2008-04-23T01:00:38Z")
For anyone interested in a good interactive map to go along with their nail biting tube-stew, here’s one: [The New York Tiimes](http://www.nytimes.com/) Just roll your mouse over each county and…hell’s bells, you’re are Obama supporters and Dopers, right? No need to explain. Anyhow, here’s hoping Pennsylvania will put an end end to this Democratic self-inflicting wound, a.k.a, Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/23 "2008-04-23T01:00:41Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] Those Exit numbers look really good for Obama, but I worry about Diebold. [/QUOTE] HahahahahaHAHAHAHAhahahachortlesnortHAHAHAHAhahaha! What, the insidiousness of the Republicans extends to attempting to swing, at most, a handful of delegates to a candidate that is going to lose the nomination anyway? Paranoia knows no bounds. You’re killing me here. ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/24 "2008-04-23T01:04:40Z")
All I can say is it’s very satisfying to hear CNN talk about my home area - Bethlehem/Allentown - as being very important to the Pa. vote. Because, hey … WE ROCK! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/25 "2008-04-23T01:06:40Z")
Oh, well now CNN projects Pa. Hillary wins 58 percent to Obama’s 48, but only about 6 percent of the districts have actually reported. Approx. 9:05 p.m EST. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/26 "2008-04-23T01:11:43Z")
Fuck. Congrats Hillary supporters. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/27 "2008-04-23T01:12:31Z")
[QUOTE=Gorgon Heap] Oh, well now CNN projects Pa. Hillary wins 58 percent to Obama’s 48, but only about 6 percent of the districts have actually reported. Approx. 9:05 p.m EST. [/QUOTE] That would mean the other 100% of the districts havent reported yet 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/28 "2008-04-23T01:12:33Z")
[QUOTE=Gorgon Heap] Oh, well now CNN projects Pa. Hillary wins 58 percent to Obama’s 48, but only about 6 percent of the districts have actually reported. [/QUOTE] There’s something just a wee bit ‘off’ about those percentages… ---
**Author:** ![Gorgon\_Heap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f475e1/32.png) [@Gorgon\_Heap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorgon_Heap)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/29 "2008-04-23T01:14:15Z")
Oh, right. AMC is playing “War Games” and I was flipping back and forth. Guess I should have been paying closer attention. Ha ha ha!!! ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/30 "2008-04-23T01:17:06Z")
[QUOTE=RedFury] Fuck. Congrats Hillary supporters. [/QUOTE] What? The overall result isn’t a surprise. In fact, it was anticipated. The only thing that was ever in doubt was the margin, which was large after the last round of primaries and narrowed over time to a percentage representing a mere handful of delegates. For Obama, this is a huge victory. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/31 "2008-04-23T01:18:01Z")
Right now, CNN has Clinton up 55-45, with just over 200K votes in. Her lead is almost entirely from Luzerne Co., which includes Wilkes-Barre. With 28% of precincts reporting, Obama’s only up by 10% in Philly. That’s not very good. He needs to win BIG in Philly and environs to keep things close statewide. Hopefully it’s just a question of which precincts have reported, but if not, it’ll be a big night for Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/32 "2008-04-23T01:18:56Z")
If it can end up 52/48 that’d be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/33 "2008-04-23T01:20:40Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] Right now, CNN has Clinton up 55-45, with just over 200K votes in. Her lead is almost entirely from Luzerne Co., which includes Wilkes-Barre. With 28% of precincts reporting, Obama’s only up by 10% in Philly. That’s not very good. He needs to win BIG in Philly and environs to keep things close statewide. Hopefully it’s just a question of which precincts have reported, but if not, it’ll be a big night for Clinton. [/QUOTE] It’s Diebold. They’re tampering with the results just enough to push Hillary into double digits and keep her in the race. I don’t trust these results, or any other Diebold results. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/34 "2008-04-23T01:22:02Z")
Keep 'em coming, dude! Is this a joke thread? I only ask because I’m laughing so hard. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/35 "2008-04-23T01:22:47Z")
The last reportings will be from the urban areas where Obama is stronger. It seems pretty stable at 53/47. If Obama can come out at 52/48, that’ll be great. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/36 "2008-04-23T01:23:22Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] It’s Diebold. They’re tampering with the results just enough to push Hillary into double digits and keep her in the race. I don’t trust these results, or any other Diebold results. [/QUOTE] If you could do one of two things, I’d appreciate it: either (a) provide a cite that Philly’s using Diebold paperless machines, or (b) provide a smiley of some sort? ---
**Author:** ![rikc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c57346/32.png) [@rikc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rikc)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/37 "2008-04-23T01:26:41Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] It’s Diebold. They’re tampering with the results just enough to push Hillary into double digits and keep her in the race. I don’t trust these results, or any other Diebold results. [/QUOTE] oh, boy. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/38 "2008-04-23T01:31:39Z")
Holy cow! Is anyone noticing the huge difference between CNN and MSNBC? I’m flipping between both and the pro-Clinton/ pro-Obama difference is startling. Of course I agree with NBC because they’re saying what I want to hear but I’m sure Hillary voters are loving CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/39 "2008-04-23T01:32:00Z")
[QUOTE=RTFirefly] If you could do one of two things, I’d appreciate it: either (a) provide a cite that Philly’s using Diebold paperless machines, or (b) provide a smiley of some sort? [/QUOTE] [85% of the votes in PA were taken on paperless diebold machines](http://verifiedvoting.org/). What the county by county is, I don’t know, but my assumption is they’d be more likely to be in the big cities than in “Alabama.” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461/40 "2008-04-23T01:35:17Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] It’s Diebold. They’re tampering with the results just enough to push Hillary into double digits and keep her in the race. I don’t trust these results, or any other Diebold results. [/QUOTE] Then go home and cover your head, because the Republicans have already won the fall election, and all you can do about is whine impotently. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-primary-lets-get-this-party-started/446461.md?page=3)