# Pennsylvania voter ID law struck down

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 17, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099 "2014-01-17T21:34:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/1 "2014-01-17T21:34:10Z")

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[Story](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us/politics/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down.html?hp&_r=0). I hope this is the first of many repudiations of the right’s attempts to suppress the vote.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/2 "2014-01-17T22:45:47Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> [Story](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us/politics/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down.html?hp&_r=0). I hope this is the first of many repudiations of the right’s attempts to suppress the vote.

Nice. This pleases me.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/3 "2014-01-18T00:42:39Z")

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Well, its a pretty long opinion. I look forward to Bricker’s case brief explaining the case in light of Crawford.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/4 "2014-01-18T00:53:34Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> [Story](http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/18/us/politics/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down.html?hp&_r=0). I hope this is the first of many repudiations of the right’s attempts to suppress the vote.

I hope so too. Hate (fear) is, slowly but surely, being written out of The Law in this country. With the emphasis on _slowly._ But it’s happening, which is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/5 "2014-01-18T01:36:55Z")

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Hooray! Now I can vote early AND often!

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/6 "2014-01-18T01:47:28Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Hooray! Now I can vote early AND often!

Go for it. You’d be the first to do it.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/7 "2014-01-18T03:08:08Z")

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> [@samclem](#):
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> Go for it. You’d be the first to do it.

Nah, the GOP has operatives try it all the time. And whether they succeed or not, the GOP then uses the attempts (that they sponsored) to support stricter voter laws. It’s a vicious little circle.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/8 "2014-01-18T03:12:38Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Nah, the GOP has operatives try it all the time. And whether they succeed or not, the GOP then uses the attempts (that they sponsored) to support stricter voter laws. It’s a vicious little circle.

I thought it was mostly done through absentee ballots.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/9 "2014-01-18T03:17:40Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Hooray! Now I can vote early AND often!

Don’t forget that under some jurisdictions you can vote from the grave too!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/10 "2014-01-18T03:20:59Z")

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Good ruling.

Help me understand this. The state Supreme Court kicked it back to a lower court, which resulted in this ruling. Can it now be appealed back to the state SC?

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/11 "2014-01-18T03:39:56Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> Nah, the GOP has operatives try it all the time. And whether they succeed or not, the GOP then uses the attempts (that they sponsored) to support stricter voter laws. It’s a vicious little circle.

Ah yes, here in Nevada that’s now known as the “[Roxanne Rubin Gambit](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/roxanne-rubin_n_2566297.html).”

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/12 "2014-01-18T03:55:52Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > [@Zakalwe](#):
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> > Nah, the GOP has operatives try it all the time. And whether they succeed or not, the GOP then uses the attempts (that they sponsored) to support stricter voter laws. It’s a vicious little circle.
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> Ah yes, here in Nevada that’s now known as the “[Roxanne Rubin Gambit](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/28/roxanne-rubin_n_2566297.html).”

And what’s really funny about this is that she ended up proving just the opposite of what she set out to prove. She showed that one who attempts multiple voting faces a high probability of being arrested and charged.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2014, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pennsylvania-voter-id-law-struck-down/679099/13 "2014-01-18T04:25:36Z")

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I like this quote:

> **[Voter ID decision an indictment of Pennsylvania's law, plaintiffs say](https://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2014/01/pa_aclu_voter_id_tom_corbett.html)**
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> Calling Commonwealth Court Judge Bernard L. McGinley's opinion Friday morning an indictment of the Pennsylvania's Voter ID law, the ACLU's Vic Walczak said the ruling showed that in fact hundreds of thousands of eligible voters would not have been...

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> “The Commonwealth has already spent millions of dollars on what the court called a misinformation campaign and legal expenses,” said Ben Geffen, Public Interest Law Center of Philadelphia. “If the Commonwealth has a surplus of of funds available, perhaps they could devote it to voter registration efforts or better funding of public schools instead of continuing to litigate against voters rights to participate in elections.”

I am NOT happy that our state government is spending Pennsylvanians’ tax dollars to attempt to suppress our vote and mislead us about it, while we supposedly don’t have the money to do things that actually need doing.
