# Pentagon planned to develop a gay sex bomb **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 14, 2005, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681 "2005-01-14T06:32:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/41 "2005-01-14T15:12:17Z")
Oddly enough, the link in the OP doesn’t mention that this proposal is[over 10 years old.](http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:TVI7C3QhExoJ:defensetech.org/+%22sunshine+project%22+bogus&hl=en) > [@](#): > > …a 1994 Air Force proposal, unearthed by bioweapons-watchers at the Sunshine Project. Here’s a link to the full [Air Force proposal](http://www.sunshine-project.org/incapacitants/jnlwdpdf/wpafbchem.pdf) (I’m no CBS worker, so take its veracity with a grain of salt.) ---
**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/42 "2005-01-14T15:16:03Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > I’m thinking about these two guys suddenly having sex and wondering if somebody set them up. > > Daniel Someone set us up the gay bomb! ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/43 "2005-01-14T15:19:31Z")
People People People! The important question to ask is “Would this bomb work on women and could they test it on the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader locker room?”. ---
**Author:** ![Tentacle\_Monster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba9def/32.png) [@Tentacle\_Monster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tentacle_Monster)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/44 "2005-01-14T16:12:15Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > It’s in the water. \*mixes himself a grain alcohol and rainwater ---
**Author:** ![MrFantsyPants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MrFantsyPants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrFantsyPants)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/45 "2005-01-14T16:21:35Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Excuse me? You’ll need to enlighten me as to what problem you have with what I said. I cannot discern whether I am being attacked by dick-twister from the right who thinks that homosexuality would hurt morale, or a hand-wringer from the left who presumes without thinking that I said something bad about homosexuals. Neither, but nice to see you’ve examined all the possibilities. > [@Liberal](#): > > What I don’t understand is how it would hurt morale. I mean, if everybody’s horny and there’s some big orgy, then there isn’t anyone remaining to assume a superior attitude by setting himself apart and pointing a finger. Okay, so we’re talking exposing someone to some theoretical chemical that makes them so horny that they will fuck the nearest moving thing, despite their wishes, or beliefs. And it seems that what you are saying (paraphrasing a bit) is that you don’t understand why someone forced into such non-consensual sex would have a problem with it. Am I missing something in my analysis? ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/46 "2005-01-14T16:38:01Z")
\*I’ve been playing a lot of, uh, military bases, too. Been traveling to military bases. I’ve noticed this: every time I play a military base the same thing happens. We start drinking, start talking politics, and they bring up gays in the military. I always tell them the same thing: I hope they put thousands of gays in the military, hundreds of , millions. Whoever wants to go, put 'em in there. In fact, if I’m ever in the military, I want to be in an all-gay platoon. They way I see it, if I’m in a foxhole and I’ve got a gun, the gay guy next to me, he has a gun. My theory is pretty simple: I want the guy covering my ass to think my ass is pretty cute. I want him fighting for more than just country here, you know what I’m saying? If I get shot, I don’t want somebody going and getting a medic, I want someone going, “They shot Louis!” BTHRHTRTHR! Yeah, see, if I’m missing in action, Chuck Norris might be be busy that week. You know, they call the volunteers to come find me, I want to hear, "Girl, we gots to go get him. " \* -Louis Ramey ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/47 "2005-01-14T16:53:51Z")
I can’t wait to see the episode of **Tactical to Practical** that will cover this miltary item. ---
**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/48 "2005-01-14T16:56:36Z")
As “Pappy” Boyington famously said, “War consists of long hours of boredom punctuated by brief moments of hot gay sex.” ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/49 "2005-01-14T17:01:37Z")
So these aren’t weapons of mass destruction, but weapons of mass…? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/50 "2005-01-14T17:03:27Z")
Wasn’t it the hippies who said Make Love, Not War\> Who knew they would listen? I wonder what they would call the mission? Operation Boom-chicka-bomb-bow! ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbce88/32.png) [@flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/51 "2005-01-14T17:04:17Z")
You are all missing the true hidden nature of this weapon. Sure they get have hot gay sex, but from then on the military will be able to easily track them with the new **Gaydar** system they’ve developed. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/52 "2005-01-14T18:01:16Z")
> [@stpauler](#): > > Oddly enough, the link in the OP doesn’t mention that this proposal is[over 10 years old.](http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:TVI7C3QhExoJ:defensetech.org/+%22sunshine+project%22+bogus&hl=en) > > Here’s a link to the full [Air Force proposal](http://www.sunshine-project.org/incapacitants/jnlwdpdf/wpafbchem.pdf) (I’m no CBS worker, so take its veracity with a grain of salt.) **Blasphemer!** Don’t you know that anything, _ANYTHING_ stupid or immoral conceived by the government must be the fault of the Bush Administration? To post a link that claims that these stupid ideas came forth in 1994 is _UNACCEPTABLE!_ The Brotherhood of Bush Bashers (BoBB[sup]**TM[/sup]**) will be coming to your house about midnight tonight. They will erect and burn a wooden peace symbol in your front yard. You will be dragged outside, your right eye will be put out, and your right arm amputated. (The BoBB is big on symbolism) A repeat of such folly will result in your right lung being ripped out and your right leg being amputated. Don’t try to fight them, _resistance is futile_. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/53 "2005-01-14T18:25:36Z")
> [@John Carter of Mars](#): > > Blasphemer! Don’t you know that anything, ANYTHING stupid or immoral conceived by the government must be the fault of the Bush Administration? > [blah, blah, blah] You should have that knee looked at; it seems to be jerking. Since you’re the first person in this thread to actually mention the Bush Administration, the “This is just mindless Bush-bashing!” charge is a wee bit premature. The irrelevant pot-shots at CBS, on the other hand, are off to a fine start. ---
**Author:** ![alimarx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e274bd/32.png) [@alimarx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alimarx)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/54 "2005-01-14T18:47:52Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > So these aren’t weapons of mass destruction, but weapons of mass…? 😃 Weapons of _ass_ destruction… ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/55 "2005-01-14T18:57:52Z")
> [@alimarx](#): > > Weapons of _ass_ destruction… Maybe we should air drop some palettes of Astroglide before the attack. ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/56 "2005-01-14T19:05:33Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > So these aren’t weapons of mass destruction, but weapons of mass…? 😃 Would saying “weapons of ass destruction” be going too far? ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/57 "2005-01-14T19:15:36Z")
Just a FYI New Scientist is an extensively read and trusted UK popular sciense publication. It’s reputation would be somewhere above the reputation of Scientific America, about on a level with Nature. That said the report is about the contents of a declassified document, not reporting the scientific value of some aphrodisiac bomb, and so makes no comment on the quality of the research that the declassified paper mentions. In summery, the bomb may be bull shit but the New Scientist most definately is not a bullshiting magazine. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/58 "2005-01-14T19:38:24Z")
> [@MrFantsyPants](#): > > Neither, but nice to see you’ve examined all the possibilities. > > Okay, so we’re talking exposing someone to some theoretical chemical that makes them so horny that they will fuck the nearest moving thing, despite their wishes, or beliefs. > > And it seems that what you are saying (paraphrasing a bit[sic]) is that you don’t understand why someone forced into such non-consensual sex would have a problem with it. > > Am I missing something in my analysis? Yes, I think so — skills at paraphrasing. What I wrote was, “What I don’t understand is **how it would hurt _morale_**.” Morale is hurt, as I see it, by divisiveness and bigotry. If all are engaged in the activity, then none can point a finger at others and declare them inferior or sinful. ---
**Author:** ![MrFantsyPants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MrFantsyPants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrFantsyPants)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/59 "2005-01-14T20:05:02Z")
> [@Liberal](#): > > Yes, I think so — skills at paraphrasing. What I wrote was, “What I don’t understand is **how it would hurt _morale_**.” Morale is hurt, as I see it, by divisiveness and bigotry. If all are engaged in the activity, then none can point a finger at others and declare them inferior or sinful. You realize, of course, that there are far more factors to morale than just divisiveness and bigotry, right? Okay, so let’s list some possible effects of such a weapon on a soldier… • self loathing (just cheated on SO, committed act against one’s own religion, etc) • shame (unable to control oneself, got jiggy instead fighting, acted unprofessionally as a soldier) • embarrassment around fellow troops (I suspect two macho, homophobic marines who just had some hot man-love might have trouble looking each other in the eye) • anger (being forced into sex against your will, I would consider that a bit of a violation) If you think none of these are going to hurt morale, then I’ll just walk away, shaking my head. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2005, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681/60 "2005-01-14T20:14:03Z")
You forgot one. If while Pvt. Jones is give Capt. Dick a blow job, a US Marine comes in and shoots both of them dead, that’s pretty much a downer as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/pentagon-planned-to-develop-a-gay-sex-bomb/284681.md?page=4)