# People "boycotting" New Star Wars Film on Racial Grounds **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 20, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295 "2015-10-20T23:32:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/141 "2015-10-22T19:31:43Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > Again, completely disingenuous and uninterested in anything approximating a real discussion. No point in engaging. I applaud your honesty. It’s so rare to see someone admit that they can’t hack it with the grownups and prefers the kiddy table. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/142 "2015-10-22T19:35:57Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > I believe Django Fett was a Mandalorian. He was a Belgian Gypsy. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/143 "2015-10-22T19:52:25Z")
> [@Belowjob2.0](#): > > I applaud your honesty. It’s so rare to see someone admit that they can’t hack it with the grownups and prefers the kiddy table. The best you can come up with is “I know you are so what am I”? Classy. ---
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/144 "2015-10-22T21:32:55Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Saying that black people are less intelligent than whites and Asians, and citing the (fictional) complete lack of black physicists, mathematicians, and engineers, is not exactly an “honest discussion about race”. That’s pretty common, run of the mill racism, actually. > > You really think that saying black people are less intelligent, and (falsely) trying to justify this by pointing to the lack of black scientists, isn’t racist? And that not having enough white men in a movie is? It’s a 100% true fact that African Americans are less smart than White Americans, in fact by a significant amount. This is attested by an enormous amount of literature on created by people from all sides of the political spectrum. Now, the causes of the IQ gap are still up for debate. Many believe there are no genetic causes of this disparity. But the difference in average intelligence between blacks and whites is a huge explanatory factor in many different areas of society, from school achievement to crime rates. The left’s refusal to acknowledge the validity of IQ and the racial gaps thereof makes good public policy impossible and reduces the standard of public discourse. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/145 "2015-10-22T22:33:51Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > It’s a 100% true fact that African Americans are less smart than White Americans, in fact by a significant amount. This is attested by an enormous amount of literature on created by people from all sides of the political spectrum. Now, the causes of the IQ gap are still up for debate. Many believe there are no genetic causes of this disparity. But the difference in average intelligence between blacks and whites is a huge explanatory factor in many different areas of society, from school achievement to crime rates. The left’s refusal to acknowledge the validity of IQ and the racial gaps thereof makes good public policy impossible and reduces the standard of public discourse. Take it to another thread, you pathetic lying sack of white supremacist shit. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/146 "2015-10-23T00:09:33Z")
> [@j666](#): > > That was suggested at the time, but I think that’s a bit insulting to Mr. Williams. Perhaps, but it did make me realize how white the first film’s cast was, which makes me think they might’ve needed a little push to even consider casting anyone of color in subsequent films. > [@Rigamarole](#): > > But I don’t think anyone actually believes all racial groups have exactly the same mean intelligence across the board. What exactly does this even mean? If we took all the people whose genetics are predominantly Caucasian, predominantly black African, Asian, Hispanic, etc all across the globe, took all their IQs, and averaged them out, you think there’d be significant differences between the final numbers? The idea of that is frankly absurd to me. Where would you put everyone who’s multiracial, anyway? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/147 "2015-10-23T02:03:54Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Perhaps, but it did make me realize how white the first film’s cast was, which makes me think they might’ve needed a little push to even consider casting anyone of color in subsequent films. If I remember correctly, it was the cantina scene that caused all the furor, and I was embarrassed that I didn’t notice it at the time, too. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/148 "2015-10-23T02:22:30Z")
> [@j666](#): > > That was suggested at the time, but I think that’s a bit insulting to Mr. Williams. Billy Dee Williams was very nearly cast as Han Solo in the first film, so it probably wasn’t just complaints about how white the cast was that got him cast as Lando. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/149 "2015-10-23T06:09:18Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > It’s a 100% true fact that African Americans are less smart than White Americans, in fact by a significant amount. This is attested by an enormous amount of literature on created by people from all sides of the political spectrum. Now, the causes of the IQ gap are still up for debate. Many believe there are no genetic causes of this disparity. But the difference in average intelligence between blacks and whites is a huge explanatory factor in many different areas of society, from school achievement to crime rates. The left’s refusal to acknowledge the validity of IQ and the racial gaps thereof makes good public policy impossible and reduces the standard of public discourse. Ergo: Star Wars is racist! ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/150 "2015-10-23T09:52:36Z")
> [@Rigamarole](#): > > I just don’t adopt the stance that is automatically assumed by most that there’s no such thing as racism against white people. [del]We shall o[/del] We overcame! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/151 "2015-10-23T17:19:58Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > Star Wars had an exclusively white cast and was a perfect example of what our culture should strive for: whiteness, crypto-fascism and hero worship. This film, however, is just the latest in a long line of Hollywood drivel pushing magical negroes and racemixing on America. The alt-right was totally correct to boycott it. > > Plus, it got us a ton of attention with virtually no effort. Seriously, a few hundred tweets turned into the top trending hashtag on Twitter. You all hate us anyway, this did nothing but spread our message and give us converts. Thanks, and we’ll be sure to do it again. > [@Kimstu](#): > > Ha-ha, you can’t fool me. I have it on good authority in this thread that the people who talk like that are just 4chan trolls pretending to be Nazis in order to rile up anyone who gets riled at these things. > > I have no idea why you think that’s funny or enjoyable, but at least it’s marginally better than being an _actual_ hateful racist. > > See you at the _Star Wars VII_ opening night, **Construct**! 🙂 > [@Kimstu](#): > > [Oops.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/search.php?searchid=12615318) > > [Quote=Construct] > For whatever reason, the United States can easily integrate Europeans but has not successfully integrated Blacks or Hispanics. I don’t want the United States to become another Brazil just to fulfill some fanciful progressive’s dream of a utopia free of White people. […] At this point, the best thing we can do, for a variety of reasons, is to the extent possible preserve ethnic homogeneity among all populations. [Quote=Construct] I know leftists hate white people and dream of a beautiful brown future [/quote] [Quote=Construct] The conflation of democracy with The West will lead us to the abyss as we simultaneously destroy faraway lands in the name of freedom and democracy and then welcome the unwashed masses into our homeland. [/quote] You know what, folks, I think he meant it. :eek: [/QUOTE] Having seen **Construct** ’s crap often enough in the past to expect that he meant it seriously, I was still kinda thrown off by his unironic and approving use of the term “crypto-facism.” Honestly, I thought that word was only used as bad dialog in movies to signal that a character was an oh-so-earnest young college student with pretensions of political awareness. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Mills](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Mister\_Mills](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Mills)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/152 "2015-10-24T14:33:56Z")
Love? Heavens me, you sound patently hateful. Are you being coy or something? I am always struggling to figure things out.:smack: > [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > [You stupid, small-minded shitsuckers.](http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/10/20/star-wars-force-awakens-twitter-boycott-backlash/74260778/) I genuinely feel sorry for you if your world is so small that woe-wanking over a nonexistent “issue” in a film is something that you feel the need to use as a rallying cry for your hate and ignorance. Fuck you. You assholes only see the world in terms of race and color? Only the Sith deal in absolutes, and they’re villains. You’re just pathetic. > > And yes, I am fully aware that there are more and bigger targets worth pitting, it’s just that this irritated me to such a degree that I had to express it. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Mills](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Mister\_Mills](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Mills)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/153 "2015-10-24T14:41:33Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > Well, he was a dick. And the Raven was a crappy poem. You have some temerity to call The Raven a crappy poem, and I am beginning to think that you have the audacity of a fool. You know, one which throws firebrands with no regard, as to what they set on fire. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/154 "2015-10-24T14:41:46Z")
> [@Mister\_Mills](#): > > Love? Heavens me, you sound patently hateful. Are you being coy or something? > I am always struggling to figure things out.:smack: > [@](#): > > coy > koi/ > adjective > adjective: coy; comparative adjective: coyer; superlative adjective: coyest > > ``` > (especially with reference to a woman) making a pretense of shyness or modesty that is intended to be alluring. > "she treated him to a coy smile of invitation" > synonyms: arch, simpering, coquettish, flirtatious, kittenish; More > demure, shy, modest, bashful, reticent, diffident, self-effacing, shrinking, timid > "her coy demeanor is just an act" > antonyms: brazen > reluctant to give details, especially about something regarded as sensitive. > "he is coy about his age" > dated > quiet and reserved; shy. > > ``` > > Origin > Middle English: from Old French coi, quei, from Latin quietus (see quiet). The original sense was ‘quiet, still’ (especially in behavior), later ‘modestly retiring,’ and hence (of a woman) ‘affecting to be unresponsive to advances.’ > Translate coy to > Use over time for: coy Magic 8-ball says: try harder. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Mills](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@Mister\_Mills](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Mills)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/155 "2015-10-24T14:49:09Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Magic 8-ball says: try harder. coy koi/ adjective adjective: coy; comparative adjective: coyer; superlative adjective: coyest (especially with reference to a woman) making a pretense of shyness or modesty that is intended to be alluring. “she treated him to a coy smile of invitation” synonyms: arch, simpering, coquettish, flirtatious, kittenish; More demure, shy, modest, bashful, reticent, diffident, self-effacing, shrinking, timid “her coy demeanor is just an act” antonyms: brazen reluctant to give details, especially about something regarded as sensitive. How about pretentious ? Is he trying to be that? Or am I just parroting what I have just read? Like I said, I get confused. UH, how about diametric? OR, hypocritical? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/156 "2015-10-24T16:20:13Z")
Are you just picking random words out of a dictionary? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/157 "2015-10-24T18:29:42Z")
No, **Rigamarole** , the reason we can’t have a discussion about race is because people who claim to want a discussion say racist things, and then claim that we all secretly agree with them. Nearly all of us have said that we don’t agree with you. The evidence shows there is no difference in intelligence among the various races. But how can we discuss that with you when you think we’re lying about what we think? You’ve poisoned the well. Anyone who disagrees with you is lying. That’s what ruins discussions. ---
**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/158 "2015-10-24T19:52:57Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The evidence shows there is no difference in intelligence among the various races. [citation needed] ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/159 "2015-10-24T20:30:17Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Are you just picking random words out of a dictionary? Palimpsest the continuity denouement donjon? Demiurge pro bono _agape_! ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295/160 "2015-10-24T23:10:15Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > [citation needed] No point engaging with pathetic white supremacist liars. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-boycotting-new-star-wars-film-on-racial-grounds/735295.md?page=9)