# People Can't Get Over Pete Davidson Attending Aretha Franklin's Funeral

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 1, 2018, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609 "2018-09-01T15:22:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/41 "2018-09-03T18:40:06Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Are you saying a young woman being groped in public does not deserve outrage?

The guy says it was unintentional. I haven’t seen video. Is it clear this was not unintended incidental contact?

ETA: What does she say about it?

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/42 "2018-09-03T19:50:15Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> The guy says it was unintentional. I haven’t seen video. Is it clear this was not unintended incidental contact?
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> ETA: What does she say about it?

No, it is not clear that it was unintended. Ariana has not said anything, but the video clearly shows her recoiling and pulling away, looking down at his hand like, “You’re really doing this?”

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/43 "2018-09-03T19:53:30Z")

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> [@Wendell\_Wagner](#):
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> Oh, I forgot to include this in my post. Here are some of the websites that have collected Grande’s impressions. There are many other websites that talk about this:

The singing impressions are hella impressive, but her spoken impression of Jennifer Lawrence is astounding. It’s like they had Lawrence dub it.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/44 "2018-09-03T19:57:43Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Oh I know she’s very famous. The younger set really digs her. I guarantee in 5-10 years she willl be a footnote. Remember Brittany, Miley, Demi, and all the Spice girls. They are famous for being famous screw ups.

1. What would you like to bet Grande will still be doing well in 5 years?

2. Wait, which Spice Girls were famous for being screw ups?

3. Britney Spears is still rather successful, despite actually having a run of personal problems about ten or twelve years ago.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/45 "2018-09-03T20:59:19Z")

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Ok, ok whatever. I don’t think any woman/girl should be groped and leered at. Who ever they are. I just think the whole thing is over the top. It was a funeral. Ariana  
was not the star of the show. But that’s all any body is talking about. Sad.  
And her dress. That was just wrong.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/46 "2018-09-03T21:21:19Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> The singing impressions are hella impressive, but her spoken impression of Jennifer Lawrence is astounding. It’s like they had Lawrence dub it.

I had to look that up. Turns out I saw it before but had forgotten.

[Here it is, JL impression at 0:38 and 3:15.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMOKevIBwDs)

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/47 "2018-09-03T22:06:10Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Oh I know she’s very famous. The younger set really digs her. I guarantee in 5-10 years she willl be a footnote. Remember Brittany, Miley, Demi, and all the Spice girls. They are famous for being famous screw ups. Disney produces a new crop every few years.

I disagree. GaGa is still going strong. Miley is too. Demi could be but i don’t really follow her enough to know. The diff between Spice Girls, Britney and Miley and Ariana is that the latter two are genuinely talented.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/48 "2018-09-03T22:36:11Z")

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Talent has nothing to do with it. Notoriety is the issue.  
As for the Spice girls, I am not really sure if any of them are still singing or recording. I am also pretty sure I wouldn’t know one if I saw them on the street. These teeny-bopper singers and groups are a dime a dozen. I don’t try to keep up. I don’t watch SNL anymore so I don’t know the Pete guy. I was just listening to the lil’wrekker and her friends talk about it. Then I saw something on TV about the groping incident. It’s all very ludicrous to me. And unfortunate for Ariana.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/49 "2018-09-03T22:40:26Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Ok, ok whatever. I don’t think any woman/girl should be groped and leered at. Who ever they are. I just think the whole thing is over the top. It was a funeral. Ariana  
> was not the star of the show. But that’s all any body is talking about. Sad.  
> And her dress. That was just wrong.

It was much more than a funeral. It was a celebration of life.

I’m happy to wait for Ariana to speak on this topic before making a final judgment, but while watching the show live, I thought, “Damn, that dude is grabbing her boob.”

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/50 "2018-09-03T22:41:01Z")

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“Geddoff mah lawn!”

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**Author:** ![blob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blob/32/489_2.png) [@blob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blob)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/51 "2018-09-04T01:09:49Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> but while watching the show live, I thought, “Damn, that dude is grabbing her boob.”

I saw a notice on the news early this morning that “the groper guy” has apologised but she is saying nothing on the subject.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/52 "2018-09-04T01:27:57Z")

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The lil’wrekker says Ariana has vanished off social media. Not sure how she knows this.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/53 "2018-09-04T01:34:10Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> The lil’wrekker says Ariana has vanished off social media. Not sure how she knows this.

The poor kid doesn’t need this type of media attention. She had that bomb thing, and now this. I can understand why she’d just want some time to herself.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/54 "2018-09-04T01:54:02Z")

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Maybe she’s just done with reading people blaming her dress length for the Bishop’s wandering hand.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/55 "2018-09-04T06:11:33Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> Talent has nothing to do with it. Notoriety is the issue.  
> As for the Spice girls, I am not really sure if any of them are still singing or recording. I am also pretty sure I wouldn’t know one if I saw them on the street. These teeny-bopper singers and groups are a dime a dozen. I don’t try to keep up. I don’t watch SNL anymore so I don’t know the Pete guy. I was just listening to the lil’wrekker and her friends talk about it. Then I saw something on TV about the groping incident. It’s all very ludicrous to me. And unfortunate for Ariana.

Sporty Spice was for awhile as she was the most talented of the bunch. no idea if she still is.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/56 "2018-09-04T06:20:34Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Maybe she’s just done with reading people blaming her dress length for the Bishop’s wandering hand.

That would be my guess.

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/57 "2018-09-04T08:22:31Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> The guy says it was unintentional. I haven’t seen video. Is it clear this was not unintended incidental contact?
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> ETA: What does she say about it?

It seems quite clear to me. She even pulls away at points, and he grabs and pulls her closer. Even without the boob touching part, it’s rather strong armed. Rule number 1 when touching someone is to give them a way to opt out. Throw in grabbing her at boob height, and the racist comment about her being a Taco Bell item, and I think it’s quite clear and then how he keeps moving his fingers to grab her more, and I think it’s quite clear.

Here’s the vid: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkadKUQe6fM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkadKUQe6fM)

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/58 "2018-09-04T14:18:56Z")

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> [@blob](#):
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> > [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> > The lil’wrekker says Ariana has vanished off social media. Not sure how she knows this.
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> The poor kid doesn’t need this type of media attention. She had that bomb thing, and now this. I can understand why she’d just want some time to herself.

I assume that most celebrities (with the obvious exception of Donald J Trump) have professionals managing their social media “presence”, including making new posts, reading those from others and so forth. Perhaps some of them have private Facebook/Twitter/etc accounts used for communication with close family and friends, but I assumed that the public accounts were managed.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/59 "2018-09-04T15:47:27Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> No, it is not clear that it was unintended. Ariana has not said anything, but the video clearly shows her recoiling and pulling away, looking down at his hand like, “You’re really doing this?”

I’ve seen the video now. It’s possible it was unintentional but that was not incidental contact, the guy was too handsy no matter what, and seems to be an asshole in general. Grande can forgive him if she wants but the general scorn is still warranted.

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**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-cant-get-over-pete-davidson-attending-aretha-franklins-funeral/820609/60 "2018-09-04T19:37:50Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I assume that most celebrities (with the obvious exception of Donald J Trump) have professionals managing their social media “presence”, including making new posts, reading those from others and so forth. Perhaps some of them have private Facebook/Twitter/etc accounts used for communication with close family and friends, but I assumed that the public accounts were managed.

Maybe technially ‘most’ is true…but believe me there are plenty out there who SHOULD have media managers.

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