# People/causes on "your side" that you don't care about or dislike...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 19, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135 "2009-11-19T08:27:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/1 "2009-11-19T08:27:20Z")

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Sarah Palin- probably a fine lady, but as far as any real political future, I hope she’s just an empty pants-suit.

Carrie Prejean- just please go away.

Glenn Beck- Dude, tone it down! And stop all that raping & killing, please! _L_

Righties I do like watching- Joe Scarborough, Mike Huckabee &, to keep it interesting, Pat Buchanan. But the three above I am just tired of.

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**Author:** ![Levolor\_the\_Blind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@Levolor\_the\_Blind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Levolor_the_Blind)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/2 "2009-11-19T15:04:03Z")

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From my side of the spectrum:

Ralph Nader really needs to go away.

Jesse Jackson too.

People who need to tone it down:

Keith Olbermann and Melissa McEwan.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/3 "2009-11-19T15:11:59Z")

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Bill Maher, and to a lesser extent Keith Olbermann. Both need to chill.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/4 "2009-11-19T16:17:45Z")

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Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity can certainly hold forth, can’t they? As my father used to say…a little of them goes a long way.

I like Sarah Palin, and I think she’s gotten a raw deal in the media. Because of that I don’t know that she’ll ever be an effective asset to the GOP.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/5 "2009-11-19T16:35:48Z")

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I like Sarah Palin in the sense that there’s something viscerally impressive about a poorly-educated backwater housewife working her way to a governor’s mansion. I think she got a raw deal in that she was promoted way above her ability level, and she doesn’t quite get that she’s trying to bat out of her league. Then again, most people wouldn’t. I don’t really think she got a raw deal in the media in the sense of unfair treatment; they’re sharks, and when there’s blood in the water the go into a frenzy, regardless of whose it is.

Back on topic - I don’t really think of Bill Maher as a liberal, per se, but he sure annoys the hell out of me. Jesse Jackson is a doofus. Keith Olbermann I actually like, but he commits the cardinal sin of trying to blur the line between editorial content and news.

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/6 "2009-11-19T17:01:20Z")

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Unfortunately, I dislike both sides and don’t claim one or the other.

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/7 "2009-11-19T17:12:30Z")

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Al Sharpton is a first-rate douchebag.  
And Bill Maher is in many ways the Ann Coulter of the left - a smug, belligerent asshole who says outrageous shit for the sake of saying outrageous shit.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/8 "2009-11-19T17:25:20Z")

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Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.

I don’t _dislike_ them but they are/were the go-to people when certain Republicans try to smear Democrats. Used to be Clinton but with her getting bumped out of the limelight, it’s all Pelosi these days. I can’t count how many times someone’s tried to score points off me in a debate/argument by insulting one of these two women and each time I just think “Ummm… huh? Okay.”

Oh, Al Gore too. I believe the planet is warming, etc but I couldn’t care less about Gore. He could be flying around in a coal-powered rocket ship made of spotted owl beaks and it wouldn’t change the studies I’ve read which form the basis of my beliefs. But people try to tell me all about Gore’s house as if this is something I care deeply about.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/9 "2009-11-19T17:41:41Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> And Bill Maher is in many ways the Ann Coulter of the left - a smug, belligerent asshole who says outrageous shit for the sake of saying outrageous shit.

Again, Bill Maher is not really on the left. He voted for Bob Dole in 1996. He supports the death penalty, privatizing Social Security, and is always whining about bloated government bureaucracies. He also self-identifies as a libertarian.

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**Author:** ![dhkendall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9adbd/32.png) [@dhkendall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dhkendall)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/10 "2009-11-19T18:45:04Z")

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I’m a Canadian, so this doesn’t apply to me. 😃 (OK, being fascetious, as I know “left” and “right” are universal, and for the record, I self identify as “socialist” (or some brand thereof))

But, one “side” I do consider myself a member of the team is Christian. And my major bugaboo with self-identifying as such is all the ignorami who definitely need to go away and stop giving us a bad name. Too many to list - could list those who I want to stay (ie those not on the list), but, of famous people, that list is incredibly short.

But, I think the OP is going more towards politics than religion, so I won’t open up that can of worms.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/11 "2009-11-19T18:55:54Z")

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Chris Hitchens really makes me feel for religious people who want to distance themselves from crude, creepy zealots. Like a few others, I love Bill Maher half the time and want to side with him until PETA or vaccination comes up, then I want to slink away. It’s just so disappointing.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/12 "2009-11-19T19:16:25Z")

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Dropped in to mention Jackson and Sharpton. Glad to see they’ve been fully represented here.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/13 "2009-11-19T19:28:44Z")

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Michael Moore. Any valid or legitimate points he has to make gets wrapped up into polemic, propaganda, and ego.

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**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/14 "2009-11-19T19:53:24Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Michael Moore. Any valid or legitimate points he has to make gets wrapped up into polemic, propaganda, and ego.

It saddens me to say I agree with you.

Also:

Jesse Jackson- could have, should have become a “Great” man; instead he’s an ambulance-chasing publicity hound.

Ralph Nader- once great, now pathetic.

Bill Clinton- I couldn’t care less about That Woman Miss Lewinsky, always admired him despite his faults, but his behavior during Hillary’s presidential campaign was despicable. As was hers.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/15 "2009-11-19T19:54:18Z")

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Michael Moore is a dishonest fuckwit.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/16 "2009-11-19T19:58:40Z")

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The WaPo’s [Richard Cohen](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/03/24/LI2005032401528.html) and [David Broder](http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/03/24/LI2005032401502.html).

_Theoretically_ they’re on my side, but overall, they both come across like guys who really side with the right on most things, but are pretending to be center-left in order to concern-troll more effectively.

When either of them finally ends his far-too-long tenure on the WaPo op-ed page, I’ll be popping a champagne cork.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/17 "2009-11-19T20:41:36Z")

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Wayne LaPierre: I expect someone who represents something I have an interest in to act with a certain amount of decorum. He does not. He is typically a polemicist. I think it would be much more high-road of him to present his views matter-of-factly and leave the rhetoric to the opposition. Of course, he’s wildly popular with a lot of people, but I find myself cringing when I listen to him.

John Murtha: He does not represent my district, but he does represent my state. I think he is one of the dirtiest guys around, yet he is always a lock for re-election in spite of [ABSCAM](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abscam#John_Murtha.27s_involvement) and the white elephant [John Murtha Johnstown-Cambria County Airport](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Murtha_Johnstown-Cambria_County_Airport).

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/18 "2009-11-19T20:49:00Z")

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I’m glad that Nebraska is often mentioned in the national press now.

I just wish it wasn’t because of Ben Nelson.

I also think that Nancy Pelosi is utterly unsavy politically. She hands ammunition over to the enemy then says, “Here, let me do that for you” while she shoots herself in the foot.

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**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/19 "2009-11-19T21:11:53Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Again, Bill Maher is not really on the left. He voted for Bob Dole in 1996. He supports the death penalty, privatizing Social Security, and is always whining about bloated government bureaucracies. He also self-identifies as a libertarian.

Well then, as a libertarian, can I say Bill Maher then? He claims to be a libertarian, but he’s often siding on issues that are against libertarianism like a lot of his anti-gun, pro-nationalized healthcare, and pro-regulation spiel. He may have voted for Dole in '96, and but he seems to have had an anti-Dennis Miller effect where he was so opposed to Bush’s presidency that he has ultimately made some left-ward movement.

Also, I find his hypocricy to be infuriating. For instance, he criticized Bush for saying that global warming needs further study, but when being called out for being idiotic about vaccines he justifies his position by saying that vaccines need further study. IOW, if his opinion is consistent with the accepted science and you disagree, you’re a moron, but if his opinion is inconsistent with accepted science… well, he’s just thinking for himself.

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**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/20 "2009-11-19T23:53:35Z")

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> [@Cat\_Fight](#):
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> Chris Hitchens really makes me feel for religious people who want to distance themselves from crude, creepy zealots. Like a few others, I love Bill Maher half the time and want to side with him until PETA or vaccination comes up, then I want to slink away. It’s just so disappointing.

Ugh. Chris Hitchens is a horrible monster. An often drunk horrible monster.

Andrew Sullivan, who claims to be a conservative, which no one believes, but even if he is, he’s still bad for (or at least irritating to) the gays.

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