# People/causes on "your side" that you don't care about or dislike...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 19, 2009, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135 "2009-11-19T08:27:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/41 "2009-11-21T09:07:07Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> Mostly i want to kick pro-lifers, because i always see them protesting at clinics that help women with lower incomes, which i have used for other ailments and not because i wanted an abortion.
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> It doesn’t seem very Christlike or charitable to do that, as if poor people didn’t deserve health care.

Well, you missed the point of this discussion- which is to identify people & causes that would seem to be part of your “side” but which you don’t care for.

You also seem to miss the point of the protesters, which is abortion, not health care for poor people.

Please try again!

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/42 "2009-11-21T09:09:57Z")

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> [@Icerigger](#):
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> I can still picture Laura Ingraham crawling around a gay bar on her hands and knees as the story is told in David Brock’s book. I thought Monica was more of class act than Ann and Laura, but from what I have seen of her recently I guess not, boy has she aged.

I saw Monica on McLaughlin Group tonight- she is ag-ing’, yes, but didn’t really look all that ag-ed’.

And Monica needs to fall a long way to get to Ann’s or Laura’s level.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/43 "2009-11-21T09:26:35Z")

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> [@Ruby Sees](#):
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> PETA. I would like animals treated ethically.
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> I just would also like to eat them and wear them after they are treated ethically.

Me too.

Check out this job ad.

Title: **[PETA India Animal Rights Campaigns Chief](http://www.globalcharityjobs.co.uk/s-Jobs_information?form_id=68197)**

> [@](#):
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> **Candidate requirements:**
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> Basic qualifications:
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> - Vegan as a way of life

That’s their #1 basic requirement for a complex position that requires a large amount of experience and skill. I’m not sure that specification would even be legal in many other countries, would it? (While noting that the job description is a bit more relaxed, in that the candidate “must be vegan [or at least vegetarian]”.)

Is it my correct impression that PETA started out OK, but has become progressively crazier?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/44 "2009-11-21T11:37:36Z")

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OTOH, might veganism be easier in India? After all, their culinary culture, IIRC, doesn’t have as much emphasis on, and history with, meat.

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**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/45 "2009-11-21T13:22:46Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> OTOH, might veganism be easier in India? After all, their culinary culture, IIRC, doesn’t have as much emphasis on, and history with, meat.

Well, India’s got a billion people and hundreds of different cultures so it’s difficult to make a generalisation. I’ve certainly eaten plenty of mutton, lamb and chicken in northern and western India. There’s a prevalence for vegetarianism/vegan-type eating in the south, so I guess more of the country is exposed to those requirements, but I don’t know about in Pune.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/46 "2009-11-21T15:36:13Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Well, you missed the point of this discussion- which is to identify people & causes that would seem to be part of your “side” but which you don’t care for.
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> You also seem to miss the point of the protesters, which is abortion, not health care for poor people.
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> Please try again!

Only if she is not, in fact, pro-life, or even politically conservative. She didn’t say.

Also, her point, which is a good one, is that no one should have to fight their way through a throng of screaming freaks to get a pap smear.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/47 "2009-11-21T20:51:27Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity can certainly hold forth, can’t they? As my father used to say…a little of them goes a long way.
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> I like Sarah Palin, and I think she’s gotten a raw deal in the media. Because of that I don’t know that she’ll ever be an effective asset to the GOP.

One of my favorite (generally conservative) Catholic bloggers hold up Sarah Palin as proof of his **Nancy Kerrigan Principle** : “Just Because You’re A Victim, That Doesn’t Mean You Aren’t A Jerk.”

Sarah Palin HAS been treated extremely unfairly… but she’s STILL utterly unqualified to be president.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/48 "2009-11-21T21:06:00Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Well, you missed the point of this discussion- which is to identify people & causes that would seem to be part of your “side” but which you don’t care for.
> 
> You also seem to miss the point of the protesters, which is abortion, not health care for poor people.
> 
> Please try again!

I think she might be saying she’s a Christian, and in that sense she considers rabid pro-lifers to be on her side. You didn’t specifically mention in the OP that they were supposed to be on your political side.

Alternatively, she might be saying she’s a conservative and that the pro-life movement is a cause “on her side” she doesn’t like.

Either way would fit your question in the OP.

> [@jjimm](#):
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> Me too.
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> Check out this job ad.
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> Title: \*\*[PETA India Animal Rights Campaigns Chief](http://www.globalcharityjobs.co.uk/s-Jobs_information?form_id=68197)\*\*That’s their #1 basic requirement for a complex position that requires a large amount of experience and skill. I’m not sure that specification would even be legal in many other countries, would it? (While noting that the job description is a bit more relaxed, in that the candidate “must be vegan [or at least vegetarian]”.)
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> Is it my correct impression that PETA started out OK, but has become progressively crazier?

> [@jjimm](#):
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> Well, India’s got a billion people and hundreds of different cultures so it’s difficult to make a generalisation. I’ve certainly eaten plenty of mutton, lamb and chicken in northern and western India. There’s a prevalence for vegetarianism/vegan-type eating in the south, so I guess more of the country is exposed to those requirements, but I don’t know about in Pune.

It’s not difficult to find vegans anywhere in India except Muslim-majority areas. Pune is a city of three million people, but it’s also somewhat removed from other urban areas - it’s a long train ride across the Ghats from Bombay.

Considering that veganism is already quite common in India, requiring that local PETA employees be vegans is not particularly onerous.

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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/49 "2009-11-21T22:35:25Z")

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I’m certainly a liberal.

But, it’s hard to give Ed Asner much credit for holding that it is everybody’s right to have a job. I think it should be everybody’s right to not go to a certain doctor, or not eat a certain cook’s food, or not buy a certain artist’s painting, and if it’s everybody’s right not to consume some particular person’s output, how can that person have a right to a job?

I often enjoy Olbermann and Madow, and like to think that they are truthful at least in points of fact, but I think they are too selective in choosing stories to count themselves as “news” programs, and tend to discredit news in general. I also liked watching the O.J. police chase; I just don’t confuse these entertainments with news.

Al Sharpton is generally the most entertaining of the presidential candidates, when he is running, and this is sometimes because he’s the only one who tells the truth. But I don’t always trust him and he’s been quite an embarrassment a few times.

Hillary, who does not even require a last name anymore, has some nice credits to her name - but her underhandedness during the primary campaign was appalling, and having seen her executive style when running her own campaign organization, I’m breathing a sigh of relief that she isn’t doing that to the federal government now.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2009, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-causes-on-your-side-that-you-dont-care-about-or-dislike/518135/50 "2009-11-22T23:59:53Z")

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Let’s see:

Ann Coulter  
Mark Levin  
Rush Limbaugh  
Michelle Bachmann

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