# People flock to see Virgin Mary in foggy window. Are people really this stupid?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 26, 2003, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557 "2003-06-26T17:14:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![Elza\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Elza\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elza_B)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/41 "2003-06-27T13:45:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by bayonet1976 \*  
> \*\*Hey! I could claim a typo, G-H are awfully close on the keyboard. Or I could claim Gilda=Hilda are pronounced the same in Spanish, and I think in Spanish.
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> Then again, I really thought it was Hilda. \*\*

Okay, I almost said something since I’m a huge Gilda Radner fan and I knew she was named after the Rita Hayworth movie, but I kept thinking “Well, maybe she did another film called ‘Hilda’.”

It’s been a long week.

Ava

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**Author:** ![Greywolf73](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d9b06d/32.png) [@Greywolf73](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Greywolf73)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/42 "2003-06-27T15:16:26Z")

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Cool! It’s like a giant-sized inkblot test. Hmmm…well, it looks like a Ringwraith or maybe a Dementor to me.

What does that say about me, I wonder?

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/43 "2003-06-27T15:42:37Z")

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Silly people.

The proof is in the pudding.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/44 "2003-06-27T16:04:51Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Futile Gesture \*  
> \*\*You gotta look at it from God’s point of view. There a million and one things wrong in the world that he could sort out, even on the quiet if he didn’t want to ruin the whole faith thing. But it makes much more sense for the omni-present and all-powerful entity to play around with weeping statutes, condensation on windows and root vegetables. You know, the kind of things that are quite possible through random chance or second rate magician tricks. Only _these_ kind of miracles are proof of his existance and a source of guidance to the faithful.
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> This is God sorting out the terrible sex scandals in the Catholic church. Faced with the options of thunder-bolts, pestilence, divine intervention, or just ensuring his representatives on Earth don’t behave like evil shits in the first place, God has instead acted incisively and painted a picture.
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> It’s kind of stylized, but uses cliched icongraphy to represent an banal, though popular, image of a Biblical figure in the unconventional medium of dirty water on glass.
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> Only a fool would fail to pick up the under-lying and powerful mood of disapproval and anger. God is giving us a message and that message is I’m very annoyed. I can’t see how anyone could fail to heed this warning. This God is not one to be messed with.  
> Or maybe it’s just condensation. \*\*

Holy shit that was a funny post.

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**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/45 "2003-06-27T16:23:48Z")

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Reminds me of this:  
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south\_asia/2484195.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2484195.stm)

Just take a look at that accidentally burnt bread…

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**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/46 "2003-06-27T16:52:24Z")

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That “Jesus” thing on the bread - it looks more like an example of malignant melanoma.

People are such idiots.

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**Author:** ![FlyingDragonFan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c89c15/32.png) [@FlyingDragonFan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingDragonFan)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/47 "2003-06-27T19:25:45Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Revtim \*  
> There was something like that on an office building window here in South Florida a few years ago.

That would be [this](http://www.startime.com/virginmary/gallery.htm). Oy vey, did that cause problems when it was discovered. It had apparently been there for some time, but was hidden behind a palm tree. Then they cut the tree down, and Hallelujah!! It’s a miracle. What’s a miracle is that the 50,000 people a day who came to see it weren’t run over in the middle of the street where they had to stand to see it.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/48 "2003-06-27T21:46:29Z")

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There’s a place around here where a lady saw Jesus on a pancake. She has it under glass. You can visit the pancake. I have done so. Jesus, is, indeed, visible upon the pancake – it wasn’t photoshopped or anything, but a real, live pancake under glass. With Jesus on it. I took pictures. I nodded solemnly. I snickered on the way home. It was a good use of an afternoon.

Its not everyday you see Jesus on a pancake.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/49 "2003-06-27T22:02:41Z")

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Looks like the killer from _Scream_ with a huge ear tumor.

… and I’m stretching for that. Truthfully … it don’t look like a fucking thing to me.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/50 "2003-06-27T22:16:59Z")

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[QUOTE]  
\*Originally posted by Jack Batty \*  
it don’t look like a **fucking thing** to me

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Well, it is the _Virgin_ Mary, after all…

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2003, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/51 "2003-06-27T22:20:45Z")

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:smack:

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**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/52 "2003-06-28T00:23:40Z")

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He looks like the guy from Scream with a parasitic conjoined fetus attached to him…

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/53 "2003-06-28T04:58:18Z")

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It looks like Hamlet holding Yorick’s skull.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/54 "2003-06-28T08:23:55Z")

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Cervaise, you know you are gonna burn in hell for that one. 😃 Especially since your coding was not immaculately conceived.

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**Author:** ![Wicked\_Blue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/2acd7d/32.png) [@Wicked\_Blue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wicked_Blue)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/55 "2003-06-28T13:23:50Z")

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I see a hooded black figure holding a cocker spaniel puppy.

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**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/56 "2003-06-28T14:36:40Z")

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It does kind of look like a robed figure to me, with a duck or dachsund looking up at it and a crash test dummy lying at the figure’s feet. In fact, it almost looks like she’s holding a terrier, or a cocker spaniel.

Seriously though, I can see why they thought it was her. It does really look like a robed figure, especially if you were looking for it beforehand, but even without foreknowledge the contrast draws the figure’s outline. I suppose it’s just a good example of how people’s cultural experiences craft their perceptions.

(on preview, I see another reference to the cocker spaniel puppy, so I guess I’m not as crazy as I thought 😉 )

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/57 "2003-06-28T18:27:35Z")

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> It does really look like a robed figure, especially if you were looking for it beforehand, but even without foreknowledge the contrast draws the figure’s outline.

Where in the Bible is the Virgin Mary described as being a vague robed figure, let alone the ONLY vague robed figure? 🙂

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**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/58 "2003-06-28T19:15:54Z")

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I thought Jesus was The Robed One

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2003, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/59 "2003-06-28T22:04:33Z")

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Robespierre?

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> \*Originally posted by sturmhauke \*  
> **Cervaise, you know you are gonna burn in hell for that one.**

This is nothin’. I’ve had a no-window-no-aisle seat reserved for _years._

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**Author:** ![hebesphenomegacorona](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b9e5f3/32.png) [@hebesphenomegacorona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hebesphenomegacorona)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-flock-to-see-virgin-mary-in-foggy-window-are-people-really-this-stupid/184557/60 "2003-06-29T00:42:28Z")

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If jesus is held in her arms, is Jesus an Octorok?

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