# People need to stop making stuff up to make Trump look bad **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 3, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887 "2017-02-03T07:46:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/1 "2017-02-03T07:46:45Z")
He doesn’t need the help, for starters, but it’s also making Trump opponents look like drama queens. The numerous hate crime hoaxes right after his election was one example, but now we’ve got a new one: [http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/233053942-story](http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/233053942-story) > [@](#): > > DETROIT (WJBK) - The leader of a mosque in Dearborn has confirmed to FOX 2 that a man who claimed his mother died in Iraq after being barred from returning to the United States under a ban instituted by President Trump this weekend, lied to FOX 2 about when her death occurred. > > Imam Husham Al-Hussainy, leader of the Karbalaa Islamic Educational Center in Dearborn, says Mike Hager’s mom did not pass away this weekend after the travel ban was put in place. The Imam confirms that Hager’s mother died before the executive order was signed. Another article on it from Time magazine: > **[Imam Disputes That Woman Died in Iraq Because of President Trump’s...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/green-card-holder-dies-day-044529798.html)** > > Mike Hager claimed his mother died the day after she was stopped at the airport ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/2 "2017-02-03T08:34:58Z")
Absolutely, lying about the facts to try to make a rhetorical point is despicable. Somebody should mention that to the President. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/3 "2017-02-03T08:41:51Z")
I don’t think there’s anything anybody could say, true or not, that would make the president look worse then he’s doing, himself. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/4 "2017-02-03T08:56:10Z")
Doesn’t Trump himself tell the bigglyest lies? Whether about crowd or hand size? ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/5 "2017-02-03T08:59:22Z")
This is merely more fake news being reported by fake journalists and fake media outlets. The hoaxes and lies are so numerous now that a very considerable percentage of certain types of news stories from the liberal lunatics and cult members in the MSM are complete fabrications. Trump and Bannon are absolutely correct when they refer to certain media as the opposition party. They are the enemy, and that’s how they will be treated. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/6 "2017-02-03T09:02:27Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > This is merely more fake news being reported by fake journalists and fake media outlets. > > The hoaxes and lies are so numerous now that a very considerable percentage of certain types of news stories from the liberal lunatics and cult members in the MSM are complete fabrications. > > Trump and Bannon are absolutely correct when they refer to certain media as the opposition party. > > They are the enemy, and that’s how they will be treated. I think I just spotted a Moran! ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/7 "2017-02-03T09:06:38Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > This is merely more fake news being reported by fake journalists and fake media outlets. > > The hoaxes and lies are so numerous now that a very considerable percentage of certain types of news stories from the liberal lunatics and cult members in the MSM are complete fabrications. > > Trump and Bannon are absolutely correct when they refer to certain media as the opposition party. > > They are the enemy, and that’s how they will be treated. I hear Bowling Green is a fine place to massacre your enemies. ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/8 "2017-02-03T09:11:34Z")
I agree with this. Ultimately, Trump isn’t the cause—he’s a symptom. The real sickness is—well, I have no fucking clue what, actually. But he couldn’t have gotten elected in a different social-political climate. Fighting his lies with more lies is like trying to bury a mountain of shit by taking a dump on it. If there’s anything to be done at all, it’s by making facts matter again. So while I can to some extent understand the impulse to fight the ‘enemy’ by all means necessary, in this case, the real enemy is just the means by which this fight is fought. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/9 "2017-02-03T09:13:24Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I think I just spotted a Moran! Yes, your side is so brilliant that it hasn’t been in this bad political shape in many, many decades. You’ve lost everything. Both houses & the presidency. Good job. You can probably thank Obama for that, because this has been in the works for years. You couldn’t even beat Trump, you know, the guy that you lot have been making fun of ever since he first announced that he was running. Who are the real dummies here? I am quite content with being on my side, and you can be happy together with all of the geniuses and mentally unstable, violent freaks on your side. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/10 "2017-02-03T09:33:01Z")
Oh, and I forgot about all of the Supreme Court Judges that Trump will be able to nominate and place on the court during his wonderful and amazing 8 year reign. This sort of incredible opportunity doesn’t come around too often to put it mildly. That’s it, you guys are basically done with, at least as far as our lifetimes are concerned probably. Doesn’t that make you feel great? ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/11 "2017-02-03T09:45:45Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Yes, your side is so brilliant that it hasn’t been in this bad political shape in many, many decades. You’ve lost everything. Both houses & the presidency. Good job. You can probably thank Obama for that, because this has been in the works for years. > > You couldn’t even beat Trump, you know, the guy that you lot have been making fun of ever since he first announced that he was running. > > Who are the real dummies here? > > I am quite content with being on my side, and you can be happy together with all of the geniuses and mentally unstable, violent freaks on your side. I’m a registered Repuplican and I think Trump is a disaster. So, fuck off about my side! You’re the type of Moran who gives it a bad name. ---
**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/12 "2017-02-03T09:49:32Z")
Who’s an adorable little troll? Who’s a cutesey wootsey little troll? _scratches Blinkyandpinky’s ears_ I’m never sure if my dog is really clever or just occasionally does something stupid with a good outcome, but kudos for managing to stay in the pit where your blatant trolling is within the rules. Be aware that you might need bigger and bigger doses though, so eventually you’ll manage to get yourself banned anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Blinkyandpinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ad7895/32.png) [@Blinkyandpinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blinkyandpinky)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/13 "2017-02-03T09:49:44Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > I’m a registered Repuplican and I think Trump is a disaster. So, fuck off about my side! You’re the type of Moran who gives it a bad name. Any Republican that is not for Trump is not needed anymore. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/14 "2017-02-03T09:58:14Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Any Republican that is not for Trump is not needed anymore. OK. What is that supposed to mean? I don’t speak idiot Trumpspeak. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/15 "2017-02-03T10:04:39Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > OK. What is that supposed to mean? I don’t speak idiot Trumpspeak. I think it means you can line up for the ‘showers’ with the rest of the ‘enemy’. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/16 "2017-02-03T10:06:17Z")
> [@dasmoocher](#): > > OK. What is that supposed to mean? I don’t speak idiot Trumpspeak. That America is no longer a democracy, and that if someone does not mindlessly support the ruling clique they no longer matter. ---
**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/17 "2017-02-03T10:42:28Z")
If the guy made it up, it’s sheer bandwagoning and he should be condemned. However, I’m not ready to convict him quite yet. All the myriads of ‘Mike Hagar lied’ stories are all based on the word of one guy, who wasn’t even in the same country as the dead mother, so how exactly do we know he’s the one that’s right? ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/18 "2017-02-03T12:14:06Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Absolutely, lying about the facts to try to make a rhetorical point is despicable. > > Somebody should mention that to the President. Good point. His lies are like dog bites man. When someone else lies it’s more like man bites dog. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/19 "2017-02-03T12:23:50Z")
> [@Blinkyandpinky](#): > > Oh, and I forgot about all of the Supreme Court Judges that Trump will be able to nominate and place on the court during his wonderful and amazing 8 year reign. This sort of incredible opportunity doesn’t come around too often to put it mildly. > > That’s it, you guys are basically done with, at least as far as our lifetimes are concerned probably. > > Doesn’t that make you feel great? If you don’t stop it, you’ll go blind. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/people-need-to-stop-making-stuff-up-to-make-trump-look-bad/778887/20 "2017-02-03T12:31:40Z")
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